(January 27, 2018 at 6:01 pm)Cyberman Wrote:(January 26, 2018 at 6:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: They are valid and sound to me, it's just the premises are doubted for reasons which I find irrational, but perhaps should give them proper due, and elaborate more.
If I was trying to sell you a car, what would be more likely to persuade you to want to buy it - the actual car or how skilfully I can sell it?
The problem with all theism and religion is that is just that, marketing, selling, not proving anything pragmatic, like an actual real physical car, or an efficient model up to date. It is more like selling an old rust bucket with no engine just because you slapped some bondo and bright paint on it.