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You guys are right.
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You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 6:25 pm
I haven't proven my case past your doubts which perhaps are legitimate to you and I need to communicate better.
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January 26, 2018 at 6:29 pm (This post was last modified: January 26, 2018 at 6:32 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You need to communicate better, sure, but better communication won't actually make your arguments better.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 6:30 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 6:29 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You need to communicate better, sure, but better communication won't actually make your arguments better.

They might, the mini premises and discussions about them, I need to better clarify and elaborate.
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January 26, 2018 at 6:31 pm (This post was last modified: January 26, 2018 at 6:32 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
No, you need to present valid arguments with sound premises. Even clearly expressed, a failed argument is still a failed argument....and that doesn't have anything to do with anyone's doubts or their legitimacy.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 6:32 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 6:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No, you need to present valid arguments with sound premises.

They are valid and sound to me, it's just the premises are doubted for reasons which I find irrational, but perhaps should give them proper due, and elaborate more.
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January 26, 2018 at 6:33 pm
You might start by making the case why I should care to look at your 'proofs'.
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January 26, 2018 at 6:34 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 6:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: They are valid and sound to me,
...............that is not -at all- how that works.....

Quote:it's just the premises are doubted for reasons which I find irrational, but perhaps should give them proper due, and elaborate more.
Here we go again.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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January 26, 2018 at 6:37 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 6:33 pm)Whateverist Wrote: You might start by making the case why I should care to look at your 'proofs'.

There is no reason to. In fact, you should search elsewhere. All religions prove God and have better communicators on how God is proven then me.  Go search. Meet a person. 

Search the earth for holy books, they might be everywhere with proofs of God but misinterpreted.

Look for those chosen leaders and try to assess by elimination who can and who can't be, a chosen leader. In that process you may find you know a lot.
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January 26, 2018 at 6:39 pm
So I guess you don't have any reasonable motivation for me to look for any of that, do you?
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January 26, 2018 at 6:39 pm (This post was last modified: January 26, 2018 at 6:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
No religion proves any god. Religions are not..in any way, proof.  That...is not...how any of this works....lol.

Perhaps you'll spot the problem. Say I have a religion that says there are no gods. Does my religion prove that there are no gods? Does the existence of the religion prove it? Does my belief in the religion prove it? Does the claim being called a religion prove it? Does the claim being made prove it?

No, no, no.....no...and no.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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