(January 30, 2018 at 11:07 am)SteveII Wrote:(January 30, 2018 at 10:25 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: To clarify here, Catholicism certainly does not teach that people of other faiths are damned, and that only people who died Christian go to Purgatory. We make no such judgements on the state of souls that way. Though I wasn't referring to Purgatory specifically, since I know it's not part of your faith... just curious what your thoughts were on some sort of last chance after death, once the person realizes they were wrong.
Don't you think if you were born into the Muslim faith, for example, that's what you'd be? Impossible to say of course, but my point is that it seems like almost always it's a matter of luck that you were born into the "right" circumstances, if another circumstance would have led you to eternal damnation.
I am still finding I have no substantial disagreement with the official Catholic position on this subject: https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online...lic-church
If you were born a Muslim and never heard of Jesus, then you are "invincibly ignorant" and you will be judged on your response to what was revealed to you. I don't think this a low bar--you have to actually try. There is room for your "honest mistake" in this scenario only.
If you were born a Muslim and heard of Jesus and the plan of salvation, now you have an obligation to respond to that specifically.
This takes care of any objection based on not being fair, or unlucky as to place of birth.
What logical, rational reason would a person, born and raised into any specific relgion/religious doctrine, have to think that their religion is the wrong one, and someone else’s is the right one? Clearly no Christians here have ever given that serious consideration, so why would a Muslim or a Jewish person do so?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.
