(February 1, 2018 at 5:25 pm)shadow Wrote:(February 1, 2018 at 4:39 pm)Wololo Wrote: Yeah, 100% Socialists, 0% Libertarian. The minute a Libertarian advocates for a good idea, they cease being Libertarian.
So do you entirely disagree with things like the free market
Yes. The free market is simply a system where there are no checks and balances placed on the owners of capital. In a free market system the producers naturally gravitate to monopoly or cartel status (cartels differ from monopolies solely in the fact that the profit pool is 3-5 instead of 1) with none of the checks and balances to enure that customers don't get fucked over. You want to see the free market in action, look at ancient Rome.
Quote:and personal liberties?
Socialism well practised is far, far better at protecting individual liberties than any form of profit driven economic system that will ever be devised. Don't kid yourself otherwise.
Oh, and before you go "oh, what about the USSR/China/Cuba" look at those countries first. They were typical oligarchical dictatorships dressed up in the language of socialism (for example socialism ended in Russia on the effective dissolution of the Soviets as democratic bodies in 1919). It is no coincidence that the empires of Stalin and Mao pretty much mirrored the right wing dictatorships of the 20th century.
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