(January 31, 2018 at 12:52 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Let's see if we can make some sense out of this.The "Trinity" is theological and not biblical. It is ridiculous and illogical. 100 divided by 3 = 33.3. 3 x 33.3 is 99.9
The Trinity, in the mainstream sense, refers to the one God who is three Persons, each being fully the one God, yet distinct from each other.
The Father is fully the one God.
The Son is fully the one God.
The Holy Spirit is fully the one God.
They are all one and the same God, yet three distinct Persons of God?
Of course, many of us are aware of the history behind how the Trinity doctrine came to be, but let's overlook that for the sake of argument and let's see how theists who are all about using logic can make logical sense out of this one.
Remember, the Persons of the Trinity are each the one and only God; they are not aspects/states of the one God (i.e., modalism) or three gods in one (e.g., as Mormons believe).
In John 1:1 the Greek preposition 'pros', mistranslated "with", governing the accusative case, when the motion is complete, means: affix, attach, connect, mount, etc.
John therefore is connecting God and the Word as one. The Word made everything and then become flesh in the person of Jesus in verse 14.
Jesus Himself said, "I and the Father are one". He also said, "The one having been seeing Me have been seeing the Father.' "How is it you ask ME 'show to us the Father?'"
Father means the head of the house. Paul said that we are His house, "Who's house you-all are".
Jesus is my God, my Father, Deliverer, Lord, Shepherd and friend.
Jesus never existed before He was born. In Colossians 1, Jesus establishes all authority. The Greek word is ktisis--to found/establish. It does not say He "created" anything. Therefore, theophany's are a ridiculous theology.
The so called "Holy Spirit" is another theological brainfart. 'Spirit' is a transliteration from the Latin spiritus which means breath. The Hebrew word ruwach and the Greek word pneuma(neuter), translated as 'spirit' also mean breath. Figuratively they mean: intellect gleaned from an exterior source. In contrast with psuchO(erroneously translated as 'soul') means: natural or, instinctive intellect.
The word 'holy' is hagion(neuter) and means: pure, undefiled, unpolluted, special, unique, separating a class from a class.
Therefore, when the bible says, "David said in the Holy Spirit" actually means that David said something IN THE BIBLE!
Jesus is both God and man and there is nothing else like Him. "Trinity" is catapult trajectory calculations born from a 2nd century clown named Tertullian.
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I discovered a new vitamin that fights cancer. I call it ...B9
I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!
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