(February 4, 2018 at 4:53 am)Godscreated Wrote: It isn't what I assert I gave you proof from the Bible you just want to ignore it so you can continue with your failing argument. We are not discussing square circles because they do not exist and it's a silly thing to even suggest so get with the real thing here and stop trying to divert the conversation. We are discussing a subject that you brought up and you have to assume God is real for this argument or your points are worthless. You have never shown how God isn't triune and the only place you can go for that proof is the Bible, I brought my proof from the Bible.
You are really bad with logic, you know. I don't have to assume the triune God is real to discuss whether it is logical or not. Nor did I even attempt to show that God isn't triune. You are just saying random stuff just because you feel like you need to say something to me, even though you have no clue what points I actually did make and how to address them in a logical manner.
Quote:You sure have a strange way of understanding what I said. I said God is the persons Father, Son and Holy Spirit. In your original post you stated that they were each a different God. Actually you posted originally many contradictions so you could argue any point opposite of the responding Christians, I've backed you up and forced you to settle on one prospective through your own words. You need to stop running around in circles and stand up to what you purpose the Bible says and stop telling me I state things I never stated or stated the opposite of what you claim I say. You might fool others into believing I said things I didn't because they want read all the posts between us, but I can assure you you can not fool me into believing anything other than what I know and know I said.
You did say the Persons of God were not only distinct, but they were separate as well. You also said Jesus is a part of God, not God in its entirety. Therefore, based on your words, you don't believe Jesus is fully God. You may believe he is divine, but not fully God.
Also, I never said anywhere in the OP that each of the Persons of God were a different God (according to the doctrine). You are either deliberately misrepresenting what I said, or your reading comprehension is horrible.
Quote:Wrong, I hold Jesus as high as the rest of the Trinity, listen closely, God is the three persons of the Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The scriptures have shown them to be individual persons and all the same and only God. Each one is God necessarily because they are the triune God. What you claimed is that each was a different God by calling each one a God. See that little word 'a' I put in bold, when you included that with each person you separated them into individual God's and that can't be because God says I Am the only God.
Where did I say that each was a God (according to the doctrine)? Are you making shit up on purpose?
Quote:It was an analogy to show that the three Person's of God have different roles toward the same end, it shows they are all equal to each other, just as the sound systems three parts, if one part of the sound system doesn't operate as it should then there will be no music and with a sound system that is possible. That could never happen with God because the three Persons are like minded and have the same unchanging nature. You are correct that they do not share the divinity because they are all equally and fully divine.
The analogy you used tells me that you believe Jesus is just a part of the full God, though.
Quote:A tri-theist haven't heard that one before and to be such would mean that I would believe as you stated that each of the trinity is a different God. Jesus is fully God and yet one part of the triune God with His on responsibilities, Jesus said this himself. What makes Jesus fully God is His like mindedness and same nature as the Father and Holy Spirit.
If each of the Persons of God are just an element of God, then how are they each fully God?
Quote:You know what you haven't done in this discussion, give the official text of the Trinity and the text I'm referring to is the Bible. I have backed up what I have stated with the Bible, something that should be done by both sides yet you haven't done so. A family is not made up of absolute like minded and of the same nature individuals, so you can forget trying to make it look like I said God was a family, like I said earlier in this post you can't and want fool me in what I have said, and I haven't said God was a family and have denied that God is a family. God is one because the three Persons are like minded and of the same unchanging nature. So you see I haven't tried nor do I need to adjust how I see the Trinity.
The Bible doesn't have much (if anything) to say about the Trinity. The Trinity doctrine is an attempt to reconcile observed contradictions in the Bible. If there weren't such contradictions in the Bible, then the Trinity wouldn't have been necessary, and Christians in general wouldn't have to defend the "logic" of the Trinity by referring to it as a "Mystery".
Quote:Poor excuse, you ignore both because they prove you're wrong, people who are to stubborn to see they are wrong always ignore the truth. You never wanted help in understanding the Trinity, the only purpose for your post was to prove you knew more about God than the Christians who serve and know Him. You have failed completely, you refuse to use or accept the word from the Bible and that is the only place one can get the information about God unless God divinely gives a person teachings and answers from prayer.
As you say, GC. Nice having such a stimulating intellectual discussion with you. </sarcasm>
