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Man Uses $1m Win To Finally Visit Doctor, Gets Terminal Cancer Diagnosis, Dies
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RE: Man Uses $1m Win To Finally Visit Doctor, Gets Terminal Cancer Diagnosis, Dies
(February 5, 2018 at 11:14 am)alpha male Wrote:
(February 5, 2018 at 10:53 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: In your mind, Alpha, who does deserve help?   Anyone?

Sure. If we're talking about helping a part of the population, then children of poor parents, the elderly, and the disabled should get help.

I agree.

Quote:Beyond financial criteria, I'd also say that people who take reasonable care of their health yet develop a serious problem deserve help more than people who engage in activities known to put their health at risk.

How would you propose establishing and regulating those determinations?  Have you ever had an alcoholic drink in your life?  Have you ever eaten bacon, or BBQ chicken?  Do you meet or exceed the minimum recommendations for daily physical activity?  Do you keep track of your vitamin and mineral intake and compare them against the national recommendations for good health?  What’s your waist circumference?  Have you ever drank out of a plastic bottle that contains BPA?  If you have, then maybe you don’t deserve help with healthcare.

Furthermore, if someone developes a serious illness, like cancer, how do you suggest healthcare providers determine beyond reasonable doubt that the cause of the cancer was due to modifiable lifestyle factors rather than non-modifiable ones?  

Quote:Do you really believe that every single person who works hard will be financially comfortable and have quality, affordable healthcare?

Quote:Nope.

Me neither.

Quote:I was speaking from my own experience, in which the people at the top have always been the hardest working. Also I didn't think it was controversial to think that, other factors being equal, a person working 60 hours a week will have more money than a person working 30 hours but I guess that math is beyond you guys. Here's some support:
https://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2010/09/30/...an-others/

Quote:Research by Daniel Kahneman, the Nobel Prize-winning psychologist, shows that “being wealthy is often a powerful predictor that people spend less time doing pleasurable things and more time doing compulsory things and feeling stressed.”

His study found that people who earn less than $20,000 a year, for instance, spent more than a third of their time in passive leisure, like kicking back and watching TV. By contrast, those earning more than $100,000 a year (more affluent than wealthy), spent less than a fifth of their time in passive leisure.

Are you being obtuse on purpose?  I didn’t say, “more”, I said, “harder”.  There is a huge distinction to be made there.  I’ll use my husband as an example, not as evidence, but to better illustrate my point.  My husband works for himself.  He’s recently had a dip in business.  A client, who accounted for $600 of our monthly income passed away unexpectedly, and someone else moved out of town.  My husband has been working tirelessly, almost around the clock, staying up until 3:00AM, trying to generate some business to make up for that lost income.  But, the fact is, that hard work does not guarantee him anything.  Hard work does not necessarily lead to more money.
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RE: Man Uses $1m Win To Finally Visit Doctor, Gets Terminal Cancer Diagnosis, Dies - by LadyForCamus - February 5, 2018 at 12:07 pm

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