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Objective/subjective morals
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RE: Objective/subjective morals
(February 6, 2018 at 6:21 am)Jazzyj7 Wrote: I only believe objective morals can exist with the existence of god otherwise everything is subjective, so this is where the atheist is screwed.

No, morals that come from a god are also subjective, as they are the god's opinion on the subject of right and wrong.

"Subjective" and "objective" are also red herrings.  The more important question:  Does a set of moral precepts improve life for the majority of people, or make it worse?  On the whole I find empathy- and common-sense-based secular morality vastly superior to religious morality.  It isn't even close, FFS.
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Objective/subjective morals - by Jazzyj7 - February 6, 2018 at 6:21 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Grandizer - February 6, 2018 at 6:39 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Pat Mustard - February 6, 2018 at 6:55 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Sal - February 6, 2018 at 7:11 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by chimp3 - February 6, 2018 at 7:12 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 6, 2018 at 7:17 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by SaStrike - February 6, 2018 at 7:21 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Cod - February 6, 2018 at 7:23 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Jackalope - February 7, 2018 at 10:49 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Succubus - February 6, 2018 at 7:25 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Chad32 - February 6, 2018 at 8:26 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by polymath257 - February 6, 2018 at 9:05 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by brewer - February 6, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Astreja - February 6, 2018 at 9:59 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Fake Messiah - February 6, 2018 at 1:52 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 4:06 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Amarok - February 6, 2018 at 4:21 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 4:38 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Ravenshire - February 7, 2018 at 10:15 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Chad32 - February 6, 2018 at 5:31 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Succubus - February 6, 2018 at 5:53 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Chad32 - February 6, 2018 at 6:57 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Succubus - February 6, 2018 at 9:27 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Whateverist - February 6, 2018 at 6:01 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 6, 2018 at 7:17 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Angrboda - February 6, 2018 at 7:28 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Minimalist - February 6, 2018 at 9:39 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Succubus - February 6, 2018 at 10:04 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by KevinM1 - February 6, 2018 at 10:06 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by ErGingerbreadMandude - February 6, 2018 at 11:16 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Grandizer - February 6, 2018 at 11:28 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Chad32 - February 7, 2018 at 10:16 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 7, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 7, 2018 at 7:55 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by shadow - February 8, 2018 at 7:22 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 11:19 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Jackalope - February 7, 2018 at 10:52 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 11:38 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Amarok - February 7, 2018 at 12:47 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Cecelia - February 7, 2018 at 1:23 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 3:13 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 10:24 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Mr.Obvious - February 7, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 2:03 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by DLJ - February 7, 2018 at 7:31 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Cod - February 8, 2018 at 3:48 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by ErGingerbreadMandude - February 7, 2018 at 9:00 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 10, 2018 at 10:40 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Ravenshire - February 7, 2018 at 9:20 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Amarok - February 7, 2018 at 9:58 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Minimalist - February 7, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by ErGingerbreadMandude - February 11, 2018 at 12:45 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 11, 2018 at 10:22 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2018 at 4:34 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by ErGingerbreadMandude - February 12, 2018 at 1:57 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 12, 2018 at 9:42 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2018 at 2:05 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Jeezypete - February 19, 2018 at 8:56 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Whateverist - February 19, 2018 at 9:20 pm

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