RE: Man Uses $1m Win To Finally Visit Doctor, Gets Terminal Cancer Diagnosis, Dies
February 6, 2018 at 2:29 pm
(February 6, 2018 at 8:12 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t need to work them in, because they just exist in reality on their own, whether you like it or not. You took this same fallacious approach in the thread about minorities and crime/poverty. If your position on a socioeconomic problem requires that you ignore or dismiss the myriad of complex and interconnected variables that fuel that particular problem, then you’ve arrived at your conclusion using faulty logic. You are refusing to see that it’s more complicated than you want it to be, so that you can continue on with this idiotic finger-pointing.
You can't discuss an issue at a socioeconomic level if you treat every person as unique.
Quote:One important point I made which you glossed over, (and to ShellB’s point which you also hand-waved away), is that at least here, even Silver plans have deductibles upwards of 5-7k/year for a single individual, with literally everything being subject to the deductible, including prescriptions. Deductibles for families are in the 12-14k/year range. So, even if the premium is reasonable, it’s certainly not affordable coverage. It’s not coverage at all.
Average deductible for an individual silver plan in 2017 was $3,500. Max out-of pocket costs were $6,500. So, if this guy needed a couple hundred thousand in treatment, it would have hit his savings or put him in debt $6,500. That's not a bad deal.
Quote:Alpha’s reasoning is a lot like Sam Kinison’s, now that I think about it. Too bad they couldn’t have collaborated; they’d have all the world’s problems solved by now.
Kinison on world hunger:
“You want to help world hunger? Stop sending them food. Don't send them another bite, send them U-Hauls. Send them a guy that says, ‘You know, we've been coming here giving you food for about 35 years now and we were driving through the desert, and we realized there wouldn't BE world hunger if you people would just live where the FOOD IS! YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! UNDERSTAND THAT? YOU LIVE IN A FUCKING DESERT! NOTHING GROWS HERE. NOTHING IS EVER GONNA GROW HERE! Come here, you see this? This is sand. You know what it's gonna be 100 years from now? IT'S GONNA BE SAND! We have deserts in America, we just don't live in them, assholes!"
If my reasoning were like that, I'd be suggesting people move to Canada. I haven't been doing that, but come to think of it... why don't they?
