RE: Share your worldview?
February 6, 2018 at 7:40 pm
(This post was last modified: February 6, 2018 at 7:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 6, 2018 at 7:28 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: This is where I'm going to challenge you. First let me say where I agree with you: "You either knew before or you didn't." That's true... concerning my car, the afterlife, or anything.Progress.
Quote:We can agree on this: there is an actual mass of Jupiter. There is. But do I know it? No. Does anybody know it? No.Okay.
Quote:So here is the question: Am I irrational taking an "agnostic" position about the mass of Jupiter simply by acknowledging that I'm unsure of its precise mass?You mean, would it be accurate to say that you don't know the mass of jupiter. Sure.
Quote:My position is: I don't know the precise mass of Jupiter. The "theistic" position is "Jupiter is 1 kg." In this case I reject the theist's position, but in admitting that I DON'T KNOW... you have lumped me in with people who consider things like 1 kg. I acknowledge that it is not 1 kg. But at the same time I reject 1.898 X 10^27 kg.-and there you delve into a or irrationality again. If you know that it "isn't 1kg" then you aren't an agnostic and the subject isn't an unknowable. You don't have to know everything to know something, and you don;t need to know what something is in order to know what it's not.
Quote:As I type this, I can already hear your objection forming. "The mass of Jupiter is a numerical value-- the existence of an afterlife is binary." I can give a binary example, too. I just didn't think from the outset to make my example binary. But whatever, I'm not retyping, and I think I made my point okay with the Jupiter example.No, I'd have gone with the simpler "false analogy", I don't plan on doing any math, lol.
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