(February 3, 2018 at 2:36 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Sigmund Freud said:
Quote:Homosexuality is assuredly no advantage, but it is nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation; it cannot be classified as an illness; we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function, produced by a certain arrest of sexual development. Many highly respectable individuals of ancient and modern times have been homosexuals, several of the greatest men among them. (Plato, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, etc). It is a great injustice to persecute homosexuality as a crime –and a cruelty, too. If you do not believe me, read the books of Havelock Ellis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Fr...osexuality
He literally said, that homosexuality is not a crime; neither is it the person's fault. But -and I'm quoting Freud literally- it is a "production" of a "certain arrest of sexual development".
Homosexuality is a production of certain arrests of sexual development, and many people went through it.
Maybe Freud doesn't acknowledge the society's role in that arrest; and that's his opinion. But I acknowledge that the arrest is unnatural and actually caused by society.
That's all. Homosexuality is not natural.
It's a product of an "arrest" of sexual development.
Personally; I see that arrest -which I personally see as compulsive and forced- to be a crime.
First of all, much of Freud has long been refuted. You do understand that psychiatry has advanced leaps and bounds since Freud's day, right?
Second, the following animals all have regular instances of homosexual behavior:
Male lions
Male American bisons
Female penguins
Male elephants
Bonobo chimps
Male Amazon dolphins
Giraffes
And more...
Some of these engage in penetration, long term relationships, courting rituals, etc.
What did Freud say about them?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
