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Objective/subjective morals
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RE: Objective/subjective morals
Simon Moon Wrote:I am an atheist that believes that secular morality does not have to be subjective

How confidently can you say every other atheist in this world share your exact moral standards? See, atheism is just "absence of belief", that's just it, there is no 'good atheist' or 'bad atheist' there's just 'atheist' but hey look there's a 'good Christian' that follows the word of God and then there's a 'bad Christian' that doesn't follow the word of God. Atheism isn't like that because there's no guidelines to follow, you just have to not believe. It is only when you not not believe you become a 'bad atheist', some pinnacle of behavioral standard that. Why isn't a atheist rapist not called a "bad atheist" but a Christian rapist is called a "bad Christian" it's precisely because atheist doesn't carry any other meaning other than 'I don't believe'. There's an implication that all behaviors whether good or bad is acceptable within the atheism realms. So where are your morals? You will of course say such and such are my morals and those will be good morals as well I have no doubt but what about every other atheist on the planet, do they share your exact same morals? A Christian is going to be a Christian whether he is in Russia, Japan, Germany or France, you can trust a Christian to be a Christian but you can't trust a atheist to be a atheist because there is nothing to trust.

Quote:I have the ability to see the big picture. I still see no evidence of a god.

You see no evidence because there is none. There is no equation that leads to God, there is no chemical formula, there's no special glasses through which you look and suddenly discover God. God is in our hearts.

Quote:So, you claim it is mostly feelings. Is it possible that feelings could be wrong? Please explain how feelings are a reliable path to ruth?

What is truth? The very limited access to information we have and suddenly we declare it the truth ™. Kind of naive and arrogant don't you think? An ant probably thinks it's perception of the world is the truth ™ as well, I can only call that attitude "cute". Like I said, broaden your mind and at least try to see the bigger picture because you declare you can just fine.
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Objective/subjective morals - by Jazzyj7 - February 6, 2018 at 6:21 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Grandizer - February 6, 2018 at 6:39 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Pat Mustard - February 6, 2018 at 6:55 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Sal - February 6, 2018 at 7:11 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by chimp3 - February 6, 2018 at 7:12 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 6, 2018 at 7:17 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by SaStrike - February 6, 2018 at 7:21 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Cod - February 6, 2018 at 7:23 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Jackalope - February 7, 2018 at 10:49 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Succubus - February 6, 2018 at 7:25 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Chad32 - February 6, 2018 at 8:26 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by polymath257 - February 6, 2018 at 9:05 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by brewer - February 6, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Astreja - February 6, 2018 at 9:59 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Fake Messiah - February 6, 2018 at 1:52 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 4:06 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Amarok - February 6, 2018 at 4:21 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 4:38 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Ravenshire - February 7, 2018 at 10:15 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Chad32 - February 6, 2018 at 5:31 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Succubus - February 6, 2018 at 5:53 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Chad32 - February 6, 2018 at 6:57 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Succubus - February 6, 2018 at 9:27 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Whateverist - February 6, 2018 at 6:01 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 6, 2018 at 7:17 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Angrboda - February 6, 2018 at 7:28 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Minimalist - February 6, 2018 at 9:39 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Succubus - February 6, 2018 at 10:04 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by KevinM1 - February 6, 2018 at 10:06 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by ErGingerbreadMandude - February 6, 2018 at 11:16 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Grandizer - February 6, 2018 at 11:28 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Chad32 - February 7, 2018 at 10:16 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 7, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 7, 2018 at 7:55 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by shadow - February 8, 2018 at 7:22 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 11:19 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Jackalope - February 7, 2018 at 10:52 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 6, 2018 at 11:38 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Amarok - February 7, 2018 at 12:47 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Cecelia - February 7, 2018 at 1:23 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 3:13 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 10:24 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Mr.Obvious - February 7, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 2:03 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by DLJ - February 7, 2018 at 7:31 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Cod - February 8, 2018 at 3:48 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by ErGingerbreadMandude - February 7, 2018 at 9:00 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 10, 2018 at 10:40 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Ravenshire - February 7, 2018 at 9:20 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Amarok - February 7, 2018 at 9:58 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Minimalist - February 7, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by ErGingerbreadMandude - February 11, 2018 at 12:45 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 11, 2018 at 10:22 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2018 at 4:34 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by ErGingerbreadMandude - February 12, 2018 at 1:57 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Simon Moon - February 12, 2018 at 9:42 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2018 at 2:05 am
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Jeezypete - February 19, 2018 at 8:56 pm
RE: Objective/subjective morals - by Whateverist - February 19, 2018 at 9:20 pm

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