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Homosexuality
RE: Homosexuality
(February 3, 2018 at 2:36 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Sigmund Freud said:

Quote:Homosexuality is assuredly no advantage, but it is nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation; it cannot be classified as an illness; we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function, produced by a certain arrest of sexual development. Many highly respectable individuals of ancient and modern times have been homosexuals, several of the greatest men among them. (Plato, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, etc). It is a great injustice to persecute homosexuality as a crime –and a cruelty, too. If you do not believe me, read the books of Havelock Ellis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Fr...osexuality

He literally said, that homosexuality is not a crime; neither is it the person's fault. But -and I'm quoting Freud literally- it is a "production" of a "certain arrest of sexual development".

Homosexuality is a production of certain arrests of sexual development, and many people went through it.
Maybe Freud doesn't acknowledge the society's role in that arrest; and that's his opinion. But I acknowledge that the arrest is unnatural and actually caused by society.

That's all. Homosexuality is not natural.
It's a product of an "arrest" of sexual development.

Personally; I see that arrest -which I personally see as compulsive and forced- to be a crime.
First of all, this does not explain the romantic aspects of homosexuality. Homosexuality isn't just about sex, you know. Many homosexuals love the person they are with, and the feelings they share with their partner are the same feelings two heterosexual lovers feel towards each other. If you do not believe that the love is real, then I'm sorry, but you are ignoring a huge part of all of this, because the feelings are real. 
Also, another problem with your theory is that homosexuals exist in all kinds of different environments and societies(Even if some people never come out of the closet, I am telling you they are there). Sure, this fact doesn't disprove your claim, it does however show how small the cause would have to be if it was social though, as you would have to have something very similar in all cultures that is the cause. It would be very hard to figure out what that cause is, since it would be so un-obvious. 
3rd, the percentage of the population that is LGBT is quite small. 3%-5%. If homosexuality was a product of something in society, wouldn't, like, almost everyone in a society with that cause be gay? Since every person in a society is exposed to society, they are exposed to this undetectable cause. So why is such a small percentage of the population LGBT? Is this small percentage just sensitive to it or something? If that's the case, then they were born being sensitive to it. And we are back to the point of us being born with something.
The bugle sounds as the charge begins

But on this battlefield no one wins

- Iron Maiden, The Trooper
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Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 2:36 am
RE: Homosexuality - by DLJ - February 3, 2018 at 2:45 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 2:52 am
RE: Homosexuality - by DLJ - February 3, 2018 at 3:00 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 3:20 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Losty - February 9, 2018 at 4:49 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 10, 2018 at 3:27 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Grandizer - February 10, 2018 at 4:09 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 3, 2018 at 7:44 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Joods - February 3, 2018 at 2:52 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Minimalist - February 4, 2018 at 6:32 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Joods - February 3, 2018 at 2:56 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 3:09 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 3, 2018 at 3:08 am
RE: Homosexuality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 3, 2018 at 3:09 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 3, 2018 at 3:15 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 5:44 am
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 3, 2018 at 5:49 am
RE: Homosexuality - by SaStrike - February 3, 2018 at 3:45 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 4:05 am
RE: Homosexuality - by SaStrike - February 3, 2018 at 5:07 am
RE: Homosexuality - by zebo-the-fat - February 3, 2018 at 5:12 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 5:55 am
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 3, 2018 at 6:10 am
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 3, 2018 at 5:28 am
RE: Homosexuality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 3, 2018 at 6:04 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 6:54 am
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 3, 2018 at 7:13 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 7:31 am
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 3, 2018 at 7:32 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 3, 2018 at 4:02 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 7:34 am
RE: Homosexuality - by downbeatplumb - February 3, 2018 at 7:35 am
RE: Homosexuality - by downbeatplumb - February 3, 2018 at 4:22 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cod - February 3, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by downbeatplumb - February 3, 2018 at 4:25 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cod - February 3, 2018 at 4:29 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 3, 2018 at 7:39 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 3, 2018 at 8:43 am
RE: Homosexuality - by paulpablo - February 3, 2018 at 8:02 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Grandizer - February 3, 2018 at 8:16 am
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 3, 2018 at 8:21 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cod - February 3, 2018 at 8:20 am
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 3, 2018 at 9:29 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Haipule - February 3, 2018 at 4:14 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 3, 2018 at 5:57 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cod - February 3, 2018 at 6:01 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 3, 2018 at 4:26 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by downbeatplumb - February 3, 2018 at 4:28 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 3, 2018 at 6:04 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cod - February 3, 2018 at 6:24 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 3, 2018 at 6:43 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Nay_Sayer - February 3, 2018 at 6:59 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 3, 2018 at 9:41 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by polymath257 - February 4, 2018 at 11:53 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Jeezypete - February 4, 2018 at 2:02 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Divinity - February 4, 2018 at 11:53 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Abaddon_ire - February 4, 2018 at 5:16 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 4, 2018 at 6:20 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Abaddon_ire - February 4, 2018 at 8:02 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by ohreally - February 6, 2018 at 2:37 am
RE: Homosexuality - by vulcanlogician - February 6, 2018 at 2:49 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 6, 2018 at 4:30 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Astreja - February 6, 2018 at 9:53 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 7, 2018 at 12:20 am
RE: Homosexuality - by drfuzzy - February 7, 2018 at 1:12 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 7, 2018 at 1:15 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Astreja - February 7, 2018 at 1:23 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 6, 2018 at 6:57 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by drfuzzy - February 6, 2018 at 7:28 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cecelia - February 6, 2018 at 8:48 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 7, 2018 at 12:34 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 7, 2018 at 1:24 am
RE: Homosexuality - by drfuzzy - February 7, 2018 at 1:48 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 7, 2018 at 1:53 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Astreja - February 7, 2018 at 1:31 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 7, 2018 at 1:46 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 7, 2018 at 2:05 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cecelia - February 7, 2018 at 1:33 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Astreja - February 7, 2018 at 1:47 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 7, 2018 at 1:44 am
RE: Homosexuality - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 2:52 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 7, 2018 at 4:05 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 7, 2018 at 2:59 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Nay_Sayer - February 7, 2018 at 3:34 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cod - February 7, 2018 at 4:22 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 7, 2018 at 5:00 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cod - February 7, 2018 at 5:23 am
RE: Homosexuality - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 7:16 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 7, 2018 at 7:37 am
RE: Homosexuality - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 7:40 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 7, 2018 at 7:44 am
RE: Homosexuality - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 7:45 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 7, 2018 at 7:48 am
RE: Homosexuality - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 7:50 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Fake Messiah - February 7, 2018 at 8:05 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 7, 2018 at 8:30 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Fake Messiah - February 7, 2018 at 12:35 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Neo-Scholastic - February 7, 2018 at 3:41 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Fake Messiah - February 7, 2018 at 5:10 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2018 at 8:11 am
RE: Homosexuality - by drfuzzy - February 7, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Joods - February 7, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 7, 2018 at 2:36 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Mermaid - February 7, 2018 at 11:33 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Simon Moon - February 7, 2018 at 3:39 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Shell B - February 7, 2018 at 3:56 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 7, 2018 at 5:34 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 7, 2018 at 8:45 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Neo-Scholastic - February 8, 2018 at 9:53 am
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 9, 2018 at 4:32 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Banned - February 10, 2018 at 5:40 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Fake Messiah - February 10, 2018 at 6:01 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Shell B - February 10, 2018 at 5:18 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Banned - February 10, 2018 at 7:21 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 10, 2018 at 7:26 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 10, 2018 at 6:30 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cod - February 10, 2018 at 6:47 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 10, 2018 at 6:57 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Banned - February 10, 2018 at 6:56 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Shell B - February 10, 2018 at 7:53 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by chimp3 - February 10, 2018 at 7:57 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 10, 2018 at 9:06 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Divinity - February 15, 2018 at 12:43 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Banned - February 15, 2018 at 4:49 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Fake Messiah - February 15, 2018 at 5:04 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Huggy Bear - February 15, 2018 at 9:56 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 10, 2018 at 5:59 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 10, 2018 at 6:04 am
RE: Homosexuality - by brewer - February 10, 2018 at 8:07 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 10, 2018 at 10:20 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Martian Mermaid - February 12, 2018 at 9:32 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 15, 2018 at 12:19 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Abaddon_ire - February 15, 2018 at 12:37 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 12, 2018 at 10:06 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 13, 2018 at 12:21 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 15, 2018 at 2:22 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 15, 2018 at 3:08 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Martian Mermaid - February 15, 2018 at 4:20 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 16, 2018 at 8:50 am
RE: Homosexuality - by notimportant1234 - February 16, 2018 at 9:08 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 16, 2018 at 9:29 am
RE: Homosexuality - by notimportant1234 - February 16, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 16, 2018 at 9:42 am
RE: Homosexuality - by notimportant1234 - February 16, 2018 at 9:45 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 15, 2018 at 3:12 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 15, 2018 at 3:40 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 15, 2018 at 3:43 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 15, 2018 at 3:36 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 15, 2018 at 3:45 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cyberman - February 15, 2018 at 3:41 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 15, 2018 at 4:13 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Martian Mermaid - February 15, 2018 at 4:19 am
RE: Homosexuality - by GodisintheTV - February 15, 2018 at 4:20 am
RE: Homosexuality - by notimportant1234 - February 15, 2018 at 4:30 am
RE: Homosexuality - by GodisintheTV - February 15, 2018 at 5:06 am
RE: Homosexuality - by notimportant1234 - February 15, 2018 at 5:47 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 15, 2018 at 6:48 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Cecelia - February 16, 2018 at 12:54 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 16, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 16, 2018 at 9:46 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 16, 2018 at 9:47 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 16, 2018 at 9:52 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Martian Mermaid - February 17, 2018 at 4:01 am
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 16, 2018 at 10:02 am
RE: Homosexuality - by WinterHold - February 16, 2018 at 2:44 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Mister Agenda - February 16, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Losty - February 16, 2018 at 4:19 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by drfuzzy - February 16, 2018 at 4:22 pm
RE: Homosexuality - by Amarok - February 17, 2018 at 4:09 am

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