(February 22, 2018 at 1:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(February 22, 2018 at 12:36 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: That sounds like what Pa is looking at. Single entrance with metal detectors, and an armed guard. They described it as simalar to what would be seen at a government building.
So for the sake of argument let's say this was done. You have spent a shitload of money and not deprived a single psycho of his assault weapon but you have turned schools into fortresses. Congratulations.
Now, what do you do when one of them says "Fuck that.... I'll ambush a school bus instead." 50-60 kids in a nice contained spot. Open up on the driver and then just blast away. What's your next move? Armed guards on every school bus? That wouldn't help. The guard would be just one more target and would quickly find that his handgun was pretty fucking worthless against an AR-15. How about a machine gun turret on the top of every school bus so the guard could have a 360 degree field of fire? Don't like that? How about armor plating and bullet proof glass for every school bus? But don't raise taxes on the rich to pay for it.
Let's say you accomplish that. Each school bus is now an armored personnel carrier. What's to stop a determined shooter from simply shooting up the bus stop while the kids are standing there? Now what do you do? Put an armed guard at every bus stop in the country.
The problem is not easy access to guns OR mental health. It is easy access to guns AND mental health. And here's the part that the gun nuts hate. Gun control is actually the easier part of that equation but one without the other is simply a waste of time and money. This country has too many guns and too many nuts.
I didn't say that I'm all for this solution. I think that there are pros and cons. However I think that you are on to something, when you say that the problem is not just schools, and the "nuts" will move onto something else. I think that much the same reasoning follows with banning guns. I think that many are focusing on an aspect of the problem, rather than the cause. To me, no different than what you are saying here, about eliminating school shootings, but moving the problems elsewhere.
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