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Views beyond Atheism
Edwardo Piet Away
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RE: Views beyond Atheism
May 14, 2009 at 6:21 pm
So you make the leap of faith FIRST and then reason it afterwards?....Well...are these reasons afterwards valid in and of themselves? In which case they would be evidence and therefore you wouldn't need faith?

And if they're not valid then it's just empty...it's just faith...believing without any evidence (and therefore without any valid reasons to believe God actually exists)...

So whether the faith comes first or after...if there's valid reasons then it's evidence and you don't need faith...if there ISN'T then it's just irrational.

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Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 5:53 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 6:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by WWLD - May 10, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 6:30 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by WWLD - May 10, 2009 at 6:33 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 7:36 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 7:55 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:09 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Demonaura - May 10, 2009 at 8:27 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 8:30 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:31 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Tiberius - May 10, 2009 at 8:36 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:45 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:54 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 9:02 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by leo-rcc - May 11, 2009 at 4:30 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 7:56 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:03 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by g-mark - May 11, 2009 at 8:07 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:12 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:27 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:38 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 11, 2009 at 5:05 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 5:19 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 11, 2009 at 6:53 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:04 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 12, 2009 at 4:06 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 2:56 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 3:55 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 4:09 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 7:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sam - May 12, 2009 at 5:21 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 7:24 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 7:48 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 7:54 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 8:01 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 8:05 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 8:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 8:22 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 8:33 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 8:44 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:16 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 4:04 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 14, 2009 at 3:55 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 7:52 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 9:46 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by g-mark - May 14, 2009 at 11:10 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 3:34 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 14, 2009 at 5:37 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 6:21 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 3:46 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 3:51 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 4:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 7:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2009 at 2:55 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 16, 2009 at 7:16 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 5:52 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 8:54 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 1:12 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Darwinian - May 17, 2009 at 1:15 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - May 17, 2009 at 3:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 1:34 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 2:27 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 3:01 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 4:07 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - May 17, 2009 at 5:11 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 7:04 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 18, 2009 at 4:42 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 18, 2009 at 11:03 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 19, 2009 at 3:42 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 19, 2009 at 6:40 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 20, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by g-mark - May 20, 2009 at 2:01 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 20, 2009 at 2:35 pm

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