(March 1, 2018 at 12:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 1, 2018 at 12:23 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Are you saying that the passage in Genesis "be fruitful and increase in number" really means increase the number of animals and plants?
I read it as they themselves were to be fruitful, they themselves were to bear fruits, aka reproduce. Am I wrong?
"be fruitful and increase in number" is God giving man creative authority.
God always intended for man to live on the earth, hence why it was made. Man was both male and female COMBINED, that shows that sex was not originally intended for reproduction.
Yes, we know that god's intentions are supposed to be timeless, eternal and all that stuff...
but
How do you mean both male and female combined?
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So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
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That "male and female" in there means that they were combined, instead of separate like anyone reading that 5000 years ago would (I imagine) interpret?
(March 1, 2018 at 12:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Adam had the power to form people up from the dust as God originally made him, but after the fall, he lost that authority and therefore can only reproduce through sex, but because of sin we must die and return back to the dust.
Damn... that first bit I bolded is news to me.
Is that explicit in the book, or is it something you've arrived at through some reasoning?
(March 1, 2018 at 12:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Upon the second coming of Jesus Christ (the second Adam), he calls the dead (in Christ) up from the dust like Adam should have done in the beginning.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first - 1 Thessalonians 4:16
This comes much much later... let's not go there, shall we?