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Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
(March 2, 2018 at 5:17 am)Khemikal Wrote: It is the underlying assumption of people who oppose trans competing in their chosen genders on the basis of their birth sex.  No one has to -say- it.  The assumption is that somehow, being a man, even if you've transitioned, is broadly advantageous.  Shadow, there, just contended that every unspecified thing about the male body would have to be transformed or else the trans would have an unfair advantage.  That could only be true if males were somehow inherently better than females at sports on the basis of their sex alone.

The premise is silent (like so many of these sorts of premises are), but that doesn't mean that it's not there.

Yes, I am saying males are inherently better than females at sports based on their sex alone. Of course some women can become stronger than some men. Of course that's true. But as a baseline, the average man is better at sports than the average woman, just physiologically.

If you don't agree with this, that's completely disparate from reality.

(March 2, 2018 at 5:05 am)Khemikal Wrote: The trouble, is that the above is not..at all, what any of the sparse trans data we have suggests.  Those "advantages to being male"..already shaky themselves...are the very things effected by transitioning.  Muscle mass is lost, bone density decreases, stamina goes into the shitter.  On top of that, M-f trans have -lower- levels of what we understand to be performance enhancing hormones than their cisgendered peers.

You're telling us, in effect, that you consider taking performance -decreasing- substances as a way to cheat.  How does that make any kind of sense?

So you can fall into an easier category!

For example, I think this comes up in chess competitions sometimes. If you are rated 1605, say, in chess, and you want to enter a tournament with an under 1600 rate and under 2000 rate category. If you enter the under 2000 rated category, you're going to get destroyed. However, if you intentionally lose a couple of games beforehand and get your rating down to 1595, you'll dominate the under 1600 category. You can farm prize money like this is you really want, but in no way is that fun or fair competition! Basically in anything with tiered competition, if you can choose to move tiers based on a personally decided measurement, you can take advantage of the system.
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil - by shadow - March 2, 2018 at 7:58 am

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