Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil

[John V]

Because I'm trying to determine the specifics of how you would personally accept trans athletes in competition with cis-gendered peers. 

More of your standard BS when losing: I'm not really taking a position, I'm just trying to understand you.

If a trans athletes fell within the range you indicated then we no longer have to consider that metric. 

Yet, since the IOC range, and your personal unstated range, aren't the same as mine, that observation doesn't get us anywhere.

Would you support lowering the trans T limit to the 99th percentile of cis athletes? If not, why not? What's your reasoning for a higher level in trans athletes?

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So it is a stamp that no one is selling, after all?  Why waste time talking about testosterone levels or any other metrics when you would place a requirement that you would not support anyway?

Answer is obvious: because I'm not the one determining the requirements.

Just start there, say it with me " No, it will never be okay and I'm not okay with anything that would meet my own requirements."

Nope. As puberty blocking is allowed regardless of my position, it's a requirement that can and is being met.

I see alot of people talking about "mainstream science"..I don't think those people have actually read it.  The differences between males and females..on average..and even in competition, are not what people think..

Then why are you against Mike Tyson in a dress? You're trying to have it both ways.

and as another poster has already put it, unless whatever range that expresses itself as is greater then the negative effect of transition.........or less than the positive effect..........the difference between males and females is moot point.  We're not discussing males competing with females.  

See, you go back to it in the same paragraph. If you really think that the difference between men and women is negligible, then why would you support any limits at all?

You really seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth and making shit up as you go.