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Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
(March 3, 2018 at 3:51 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I think that having the same ranges for trans or cis competitors is one of the best ideas I've heard, personally. 

When I read this I thought surely that's already come up in a thread this length. And, yes, Cecelia made pretty much the same argument as me (aside from her bigoted view that Christians would never agree with her) back on page 2:

(February 26, 2018 at 11:17 pm)Cecelia Wrote: I see no problem with her competing in the women's league, as long as her testosterone levels have reached the appropriate level.  Whatever advantages she has from her per-transitional period are offset by disadvantages from that same transition.  Ideally, she would have transitioned earlier in life, which would have minimized any advantages she might have.  Of course our good Christian friends don't want that because the idea of transgender people freaks them out.  Just like gay people do--only now they know we're not going to be readily accepting of their hate.  They hope that we'll just accept their transgender hate (because they have to hate someone, right?  How else will they show how Christian they are?)

The main question at this point is, what's an appropriate T level?  I've proposed that it be set at the 99th percentile of cis female athletes, the logic being obvious. I've seen no rationale for the IOC's limit, which is more than 3 times that amount. 

And regarding Mike Tyson in a dress, yes, it is an issue. In Connecticut, a high school runner is allowed to compete as a female just on declaration - there's been no hormone therapy whatsoever.
http://usatodayhss.com/2017/connecticut-...ontroversy
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil - by John V - March 3, 2018 at 4:19 pm

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