(March 3, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Khemikal Wrote:No; I mean the deep, dark and twisted kind of grudge, resulting from organized continues acts.Quote:The same can be applied here. The conventional way of warfare that is quite apathetic when it comes to burning anybody in the line of fire, creates and manufactures terrorists and damaged people. There is nothing you can possibly say to excuse yourself from the intentional burning of Khalid's parents in an airstrike. That creates never ending grudge, and that creates never ending terrorism from both sides.Grudges and blood fueds predate civilization. They existed in tribal societies both in history and prehistory. It doesn't really matter how or why or with what you kill anyone's kid. Nobody is or ever has been giving out any mulligans on that one. Truth be told..you could kill our goats and get the same reaction. Add it to the list of shitty things about human conflict.
Religion has its resulting grudges, nationalism has its resulting grudges, and pretty much every other faction on earth has its own dark arts of organized steps to manufacture hate and grudge; protected and kept by the institution that controls the faction; usually.
What existed in tribal societies was mere "hate". Not "organized grudges" with roots striking back to thousands of years and require years-worth of work combined with societal rebuilding and re-drawing of culture.
To think about an example; think of the kings and nobles of Medieval Europe. An organized marriage would end a 100 years war and grudge.
Take the modern world's racism between whites and blacks.
Quote:Quote: Wrote:The real sacrifice is in stopping the shooting, even if it meant one's own death. It's better to get unplugged from the simulation, than to draw so many to the same pit one has fallen in.That's what an intervention force is for. We get on a plane and travel to some place we couldn't give a shit less about....and try to stand between the people who are shooting and the people getting shot.
Intervention; Invasion; what's the difference?
"This is a Crusade ! " - George Bush
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It's a never ending cycle: WW2 didn't even complete the 100 years span; but blood is being spilled in scary ways and we're in a time that is considered to be "a time of peace". Everybody knows that a third round will happen, humanity even got an authentic doomsday clock right here:
I suppose that' s a poetic way to put it. I'd say that conflict is, to some extent, predictable. That the conditions which produce it have been present for some time, are still present..and in many places are worse than they've ever been. If we could change those conditions, the conflict can be avoided. Far from being a cycle that feeds upon itself into perpetuity, the presence of collateral damage in conflict is just one moment in a long chain of decisions not at all related to killing or warfare that could be interrupted at any point.
But humans literally solved all the reasons of wars in the past. With the discovery of energy sources, transporting food and even water became so easy. If every wealthy person gave a dollar a day, nobody on earth would die from hunger. Medicine is also there.
The predictability of conflict, is due to bad intentions already being held in place.
Honestly; don't you feel the hypocrisy showering the place, when two asses wearing fancy suites shake hands with a smile, while aiming nuclear ICBMs at each others' capital cities?
Bad intentions are what I call that. We can be better people, but the majority insist on bringing hammers to the table.