RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
March 4, 2018 at 4:27 pm
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2018 at 4:29 pm by shadow.)
(March 4, 2018 at 4:06 pm)Hammy Wrote:(March 4, 2018 at 3:47 pm)shadow Wrote: This 1000000x. It has literally nothing to do with gender identity. Like, in track, the men's and women's races are run the same in every facet, except when they're compensating for a physiological difference between men and women (like implements and courses having different heights, weights, or distances). It's not like women wear freaking skirts while doing shot put, or the men's javelins are more masculine. Lol. It's purely physiological.
And gender identity isn't about gender roles. You can be a masculine transwoman who doesn't like dresses and you're no less of a woman than a masculine ciswoman the only difference is you were born with a biologically male body. It's has absolutely nothing to do with acting womanly. A transwoman can play sports for the same reason a ciswoman can play sports. It's just a woman. Cis/trans is no more relevant than white/black. And THAT'S why it's bigoted to act as if it is. When you look at another human being you shouldn't care about whether they are cis or trans any more than you should care about the color of their skin. Certain races don't completely dominate certain sports categories... but if they did it wouldn't matter and they wouldn't be excluded and THAT'S the point.
IT'S NOT ABOUT GENDER. It's about biological sex.
Stop ignoring that this is the entire point I keep making.
Quote:(March 4, 2018 at 3:34 pm)shadow Wrote: A trans woman is physiologically part male, something we can't change
So what? Being tall makes a person better at basketball but you don't ban overly tall basketball players. Genetic advantages don't matter. It isn't cheating. Drugs is cheating. Genetics isn't cheating. This is a women's category and transwomen are women. The fact that transwomen may have a genetic advantage is no more relevant than the fact taller basketball players have an advantage. They're not men they're women and that's why they get to play with other women.
You say that you do running and if a bunch of transwomen were allowed to compete along with you a bunch of you would be mad... well my point is that you'd be wrong to be mad.
No, I wouldn't. You would like to destroy something that I really enjoy and work hard towards. You have no understanding of how competition works, and you're not paying attention to the rationale behind what I'm saying. You're just offended that some of us aren't pretending that people are all the same. Different sexes aren't something that people made up - men and women are not the same on a biological level. Stop trying to be politically correct and think for a second about the content of my argument. I've taken enough biology for this to be obvious, and I don't think it's advanced science. You're just forgetting it because you're trying to be PC. Don't lie about science because you want to avoid hurting people's feelings or triggering SJWs.
The whole reason sports are segregate by sex in the first place is because genetic advantages do matter when they are as extreme and clearcut as those between men and women. Please, tell me, what is your understanding of the reasons that we have men's and women's categories in sports?
