RE: Before We Discuss Whether God Exists, I Have A Question
March 6, 2018 at 5:00 am
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2018 at 5:17 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I won't be considering it at all, lol. I was just looking for clarity. You require the introduction of "evidence" you deem to be untestable, yes...no?
Have at it, but you've already scuttled whatever argument you'll be looking to provide in the absence of any actual evidence..since you've deemed it's propositions untestable. If that were so, then how should -you- know whether or not any given proposition were sound in the first place, and why should anyone else accept your say so by mere assertion? You will be left making claims, nothing more or less.
This, btw, I find ironic. I'm uninterested in whatever passes for "evidence" between your ears, but I am amused by the fact that you are likely seeking to place this "evidence" beyond testability as a hedge against failure. This is, ofc, precisely why such "evidence" fails in the first place. You have demanded that it cannot even be demonstrated to be evident, let alone true....because both of those would require -some- sort of test. It's a fairly common affliction among the faithful. The need to have a rationalization combined with the desire to avoid any possible consequences of playing at reason. Personally, I'd tell you to just make up your mind one way or the other and let the chips fall. The worst that could happen is that you find that some rationalization x you hold for god was ignorant or misinformed. That would be your failure, then, rather than a failure of the very concept of god. Best case scenario, ofc, is that you actually manage to present evidence of god..rather than "evidence".
The way you're approaching it, is to sink the ship if it won't carry you, even if it could still carry a god.
Have at it, but you've already scuttled whatever argument you'll be looking to provide in the absence of any actual evidence..since you've deemed it's propositions untestable. If that were so, then how should -you- know whether or not any given proposition were sound in the first place, and why should anyone else accept your say so by mere assertion? You will be left making claims, nothing more or less.
This, btw, I find ironic. I'm uninterested in whatever passes for "evidence" between your ears, but I am amused by the fact that you are likely seeking to place this "evidence" beyond testability as a hedge against failure. This is, ofc, precisely why such "evidence" fails in the first place. You have demanded that it cannot even be demonstrated to be evident, let alone true....because both of those would require -some- sort of test. It's a fairly common affliction among the faithful. The need to have a rationalization combined with the desire to avoid any possible consequences of playing at reason. Personally, I'd tell you to just make up your mind one way or the other and let the chips fall. The worst that could happen is that you find that some rationalization x you hold for god was ignorant or misinformed. That would be your failure, then, rather than a failure of the very concept of god. Best case scenario, ofc, is that you actually manage to present evidence of god..rather than "evidence".
The way you're approaching it, is to sink the ship if it won't carry you, even if it could still carry a god.
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