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Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil
(March 7, 2018 at 9:50 am)alpha male Wrote:
(March 7, 2018 at 8:51 am)Grandizer Wrote: I am not the authority on this matter, so you're asking the wrong guy.

None of us are the authority on this matter, yet we're all discussing it. You're dodging the question, likely because you don't like the implications of your preferred answer.

You're looking for that "gotcha" moment, but I already answered the question anyway. Read again, and you'll see the answer right there, right after I reminded you that I am not the authority on the matter.

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Quote:I follow what the IOC proposes on this, since they would know more about potential controversies than you and I would, and because their regulations/guidelines are based on current medical/scientific advice.

The IOC is as capable as bias as anyone else. Current scientific data has male T range down to 10 - or 6.7, depending on the study - amd 99% of women below 3.08 IIRC. A limit of 3.08 could be set "based on current medical/scientific advice."

Except you aren't the arbiter of medical/scientific advice, so let's not pretend you are.

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Quote:For the sake of consistency. If transwomen were forced to compete against men instead if their testosterone levels don't fall within your preferred female range, then many cisgendered/intersex women with relatively high testosterone levels would have to be moved as well.

Why? Cis women above the limit are there naturally, and it would be unethical to ask them to take dangerous drugs to lower their level. However, trans women are already voluntarily taking the drugs. Asking them to lower their level further therefore doesn't pose the same ethical problem.

So let's get this straight. You have no problem with ciswomen being above your preferred set limit continuing to compete against other women, but you have a problem with transwomen being above that limit and not competing with men instead. Hmm, I wonder why ...
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RE: Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil - by Grandizer - March 7, 2018 at 10:01 am

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