RE: Atheists:Can you disprove the resurrection or Jesus' existence?
September 1, 2011 at 4:20 am
(This post was last modified: September 1, 2011 at 4:27 am by Justtristo.)
(August 31, 2011 at 9:34 pm)nicholas5000 Wrote: Can you give me your best evidence that Jesus was not the son of God and died on the cross, or that he didn't exist? There's a theory that was in the movie ''Zeitgeist'' where the filmmakers claim that Jesus was a myth and never existed. They also claimed that all religion came from ancient astrology and sun worship.
I have never watched Zeitgeist, however I have read works by critical biblical scholars such as Bart D Ehrman, John Domnic Crossan and Robert M Price among others.
The resurrection can be disproved beyond a shadow of a doubt. Because outside the New Testament we have no other evidence from contemporary historical records for the resurrection or anyother miracles Jesus preformed in the gospels. Christians need to realize that not all evidence is good evidence and the evidence that is presented in the New Testament is not particularly good evidence.
The existence of a guy named Jesus who was the basis of chracter of Jesus we find in the gospels cannot be either proven or disproved conclusively. There is evidence for the existence of such a character, however it disputed wheter or not it is good evidence. I believe in the former, however the Jesus of the Gospels has been very heavily mythologised.
(August 31, 2011 at 10:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:Can you give me your best evidence that Jesus was not the son of God and died on the cross, or that he didn't exist?
You are asserting that a dead jew on a stick came back to life. The only evidence you have for this is written in a poorly-written religious text which has been extensively edited through the centuries. This is insufficient to prove your case.
If you can come up with anything new, please do so. Be aware that we have already been through the Pliny, Suetonius, Tacitus, Josephus shit so don't even bother with those.
Meanwhile, no one needs to visit this site:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/country.html
more than you.
That is not a bad site, although needs to be somewhat critical when examining the stuff they argue. However it is still 1,000,000% better than any apologetics site.
However sections of it are great like this one comparing the evidence for Julius Caesar vs Jesus Christ. Great for counter-apologetics http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/exist.htm
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