About death and the children.

[Edwardo Piet]

Happy to see that i'm not alone in this world to take such things seriously.

Stating the nature of the female isn't stereotyping Evie. It's bollocks over political correctness to shy away from biological differences.

It is true that some women are like that, but i think that in the long run, there is as many different type of women psych as there is women...

Yeah that's what I think And that's why I thought he was stereotyping.

..I don't think I'm being too cynical to think that it's childhood indoctrination (and arguably abusive) for children of SUCH a young age to be 'brought up' in a religion and a particular religion for that matter (others closed-off)

But wife and familly are not even real christian, just follower of old tradition concernig birth, marriage and funerals. Wife is a beliver in the 'greater things'', but with clear boudhist tendancy. So why is church so damned important to them??? Just can't understand this part. In fact, why did she (cause after all that is where the main problem lies, i can always deal with the rest of the familly) insist on taking them in a catholic church and not in any other faith temple...

It must really suck (and that's a gross understatement I'm sure!) if your wife can't be reasoned with AT ALL....it's important to try and find some good advice and get some thinking time and keep your cool I guess...because if she can't be reasoned with AT ALL then I'm not really sure what you could do...just keep your cool and think it through I guess, TRY and be persuasive (but don't be too hasty and try to keep your cool), if it seems like there's no hope it doesn't mean it's over FOREVER - I mean you still might be able to do something to help the matter eventually even if not right now..

Now, if she can be reasoned with if only a LITTLE BIT - then start there I think. And move up; because any progress is still progress and perhaps you can at least come to some form of compromise and respect of BOTH your views at least...

I do think it's a very important issue though and shouldn't just be gave up on if you can help it...that's just my opinion though and it's totally up to you what decision you make really of course.

Have you ever been confronted to peoples who disminished the importance of your ''faith'', or more exactly lack of it?

I've been lucky. Sometimes I get people who disprove of my atheism here in the UK....but it's never anything serious....

The worst I get really is when OTHER atheists who are atheists by definition (they don't believe in God) but just don't CALL themselves atheists sometimes complain about me LABELLING myself as one (because despite the fact they don't believe; they couldn't really care less it seems, well it's at least not that important to them anyway) - and it also seems to sometimes be frowned upon the fact that I go on fourms specifically for atheism. And I'm also sometimes asked why I have to be militant about it. Like why does it really matter that much, etc.

So I don't really get it bad at all. I'm lucky I guess (and it's mostly to do with the fact I like in the UK I think) - if I got badgering like that from a LOT of people and to a much worse level that would be horrible :S

I don't think I've even remotely experienced the level of prejudice that you've received towards your atheism. That must be awful.

I do my best to give advice and do my bit, as others do. I hope I've said something worthwhile to help but I know that your situation is a very tough one....


EvF