Jesus : The Early years

[chimp3]

I agree. But, the argument for the adult ministry of Jesus is that there were eyewitnesses. So, where did the historical data for Jesus's early years come from?

If nobody ever claimed they got it right, there would be no claims. Claims always come from some account made by someone. No religion escapes this. Jews and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists all claim their histories. That means no matter how far back you go in those respective histories, someone is always claiming direct witness at the alleged origin of the start of any of those religions.

When you sample enough of all of those you always see conflict as to where the core characters started and what their histories were. You ask a Tibet Buddhist vs a Chinese Buddhist vs a Japanese Shinto Buddhist where the first Buddha lived, there might be some overlap but no absolute agreement. Muslims also wont agree on what exact part of the Arab world he existed or what his message was. 

Just like you find conflict in the new testament about all the begats between the gospels.

If you push a Catholic and Baptist hard enough, of course they will agree that Jesus existed, but you won't get them to agree on interpretation. No different with Jews or Hindus or Buddhists and their own claimed histories.

My point is regardless, magic men do not exist. Saviors do not exist, and prophets to not exist.

I agree. But, since the authority of the adult ministry of Jesus is validated by eyewitnesses, I want to know which eyewitnesses are cited for the Immaculate Conception, birth in a manger, and who did the interviews 33-100 years later.