Jesus : The Early years

[Brian37]

If nobody ever claimed they got it right, there would be no claims. Claims always come from some account made by someone. No religion escapes this. Jews and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists all claim their histories. That means no matter how far back you go in those respective histories, someone is always claiming direct witness at the alleged origin of the start of any of those religions.

When you sample enough of all of those you always see conflict as to where the core characters started and what their histories were. You ask a Tibet Buddhist vs a Chinese Buddhist vs a Japanese Shinto Buddhist where the first Buddha lived, there might be some overlap but no absolute agreement. Muslims also wont agree on what exact part of the Arab world he existed or what his message was. 

Just like you find conflict in the new testament about all the begats between the gospels.

If you push a Catholic and Baptist hard enough, of course they will agree that Jesus existed, but you won't get them to agree on interpretation. No different with Jews or Hindus or Buddhists and their own claimed histories.

My point is regardless, magic men do not exist. Saviors do not exist, and prophets to not exist.

I agree. But, since the authority of the adult ministry of Jesus is validated by eyewitnesses, I want to know which eyewitnesses are cited for the Immaculate Conception, birth in a manger, and who did the interviews 33-100 years later.

Stop making this about just one religion. 

I think your point is why didn't anyone during the alleged time write anything down. I GET THAT.

I'd seriously suggest you spend some time looking up the history of the "first days" of other "founders" of other religions. You will find just as much inconsistency and superstitious nonsense. 

Again, the mythology of the first Buddha had him being born out of the side of his mother Queen Maya. She, like the Virgin Mary myth was told by the divine world that she would give a gift to the world.

In Egyptian Mythology Isis, Mother of Horus gave birth to the child savior to the Egyptians.

I think you are getting stuck on the popularity of that tradition instead of focusing on evidence. 

If Trump told you he had the biggest crowd at his inauguration would you believe him? If his fans told you that would you believe them?