Another hypothetical for theists.

[possibletarian]

Deb, this brings me back to my original hypothetical.
If this isn't meant to be the ideal place,and I agree with you, tell me in your opinion, what an ideal place is meant to be like?

IMO, unless some being alters the rules of the universe artificially, yes, this will always be as good as it gets.
We got this far as a species only at the expense of others.
Remember the universe doesn't understand good and evil, right or wrong.
We as an evolved species have arbitrarily created those terms for self preservation. (again, this is just evolution at work).

If a god was to intervene to make this the ideal place, we sure would know about it.

Neo seems to think this it is ...as good as it gets under the control of an omni everything super-entity...
Maybe he's right and we're just weak and soft and handle the real world "as it is" ...

Either that or you still believe that this place is just a game god plays ... a testing ground made intentionally hard by him because ...

...he's bored

I can dream up a perfect world, where disease doesnt exist, people live forever, everyone is nice, no one eats meat, etc etc.

But see, that kind of world isnt possible, naturally. It would take supernatural elements to make that possible.

Exactly !