RE: Jesus : The Early years
March 25, 2018 at 1:23 am
(This post was last modified: March 25, 2018 at 2:01 am by Godscreated.)
(March 24, 2018 at 6:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(March 24, 2018 at 12:41 am)Godscreated Wrote: To all those who asked this question, you would think one person asking would be enough but I guess your insecurity overwhelms you at times.
Now the answer, if you had cared to read instead of copying other posts only one would have had to ask.
Luke 1: 1-4 Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of things that have been accomplished among us, just as those from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you most excellent Theophilus, that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught.
Luke tells us that he learned from those who were there from the beginning and Mary was certainly there at the beginning. For people who claim to be logical you all sure have a hard time proving it, it is logical Luke asked those in the life of Jesus what happened and only Mary could have told him of the earliest years.
GC
Really, how could you know that, unless you have been around for a couple thousand years. Those writings have been excluded from consideration because of the falsehoods in them.
GC
Well, we currently have you claiming that only you are correct. Fine. I have no reason to accept that.
We have others claiming that allah is the only way.
We have others claiming some rather strangeness.
What makes your claim better? To me it is simply another woo claim among many others. what exactly makes your claim special? What evidence have you to show for it that should convince me? So far, you seem to have not a damn thing, but I am willing to board whatever you have to offer for your arbitrarily chosen deity as opposed to any of the others competing so long as you can show that your deity exist. Perhaps you will be the first to do so. Nobody ever has before.
What I have presented has been accepted for 2000 years, none of it has ever been disproved nor will it because if it can't be for 2000 years there's no hope it will now. As for allah he was imagined 600 years after Jesus. God has not asked me nor any other Christian to prove Him, not even the Bible tries to prove God, you want proof you will need to get it like I did, from God himself.
GC
(March 24, 2018 at 1:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(March 24, 2018 at 12:41 am)Godscreated Wrote: Really, how could you know that, unless you have been around for a couple thousand years. Those writings have been excluded from consideration because of the falsehoods in them.
GC
We know that the books that were included also contain falsehoods. We also know that the books I mentioned were accepted as valid for centuries and that they predate the books you accept. If you reject the two books I mentioned then you must apply the same criteria to the other gospels.
No I don't. Those books are not accepted and as far as predating anything I've never seen proof of it and even if they were that doesn't qualify them as reliable and true. All of the Bible is true and has never been disproved, if you have information it's false then you need to present it since no one else here has in all the time I've been here. Great scholars put together the Bible from all the manuscripts of 2000 years past and many scholars have proved it reliable since. The 2000 years I use is a general time line to keep from looking up precise dates.
GC
(March 24, 2018 at 6:59 am)chimp3 Wrote:(March 24, 2018 at 12:41 am)Godscreated Wrote: To all those who asked this question, you would think one person asking would be enough but I guess your insecurity overwhelms you at times.
Now the answer, if you had cared to read instead of copying other posts only one would have had to ask.
Luke 1: 1-4 Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of things that have been accomplished among us, just as those from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you most excellent Theophilus, that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught.
Luke tells us that he learned from those who were there from the beginning and Mary was certainly there at the beginning. For people who claim to be logical you all sure have a hard time proving it, it is logical Luke asked those in the life of Jesus what happened and only Mary could have told him of the earliest years.
GC
So, Mary told Luke this? :
"In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David"
She was the eyewitness?
Who do you think Gabriel was sent to, hint, Mary and who do you think Elizabeth was, hint, Mary's aunt. Come on man surely you can do better than this, read all the gospel first.
GC
(March 24, 2018 at 4:26 am)Grandizer Wrote:(March 24, 2018 at 12:41 am)Godscreated Wrote: To all those who asked this question, you would think one person asking would be enough but I guess your insecurity overwhelms you at times.
Now the answer, if you had cared to read instead of copying other posts only one would have had to ask.
Luke 1: 1-4 Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of things that have been accomplished among us, just as those from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you most excellent Theophilus, that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught.
Luke tells us that he learned from those who were there from the beginning and Mary was certainly there at the beginning. For people who claim to be logical you all sure have a hard time proving it, it is logical Luke asked those in the life of Jesus what happened and only Mary could have told him of the earliest years.
GC
Dude, my first post in this thread quotes this passage. And no, it doesn't say what you claim it says. You're making shit up. Admit it.
I can't help you deny the truth even when you post it. I making nothing up it is what it is and you can't change it.
GC
(March 24, 2018 at 1:06 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(March 24, 2018 at 12:41 am)Godscreated Wrote: To all those who asked this question, you would think one person asking would be enough but I guess your insecurity overwhelms you at times.
Now the answer, if you had cared to read instead of copying other posts only one would have had to ask.
Luke 1: 1-4 Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of things that have been accomplished among us, just as those from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you most excellent Theophilus, that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught.
Luke tells us that he learned from those who were there from the beginning and Mary was certainly there at the beginning. For people who claim to be logical you all sure have a hard time proving it, it is logical Luke asked those in the life of Jesus what happened and only Mary could have told him of the earliest years.
No, actually it doesn't say that. It says that because others had done so, it inspired him to write down the conclusions of his investigations. So it neither says that he interviewed people who were there from the very beginning, nor does it follow that, even if he had, that Mary was necessarily among those he interviewed. You're simply reading your own prejudices into Luke's account. If this is the sort of incompetent reading that passes for "study" in your mind, then you have no reason to boast that you know this or that from reading the bible, because obviously you don't.
You can't prove what I said is wrong or you would have, all you know to do is run your mouth so that you can disguise the lack of Biblical knowledge you have a trick I've seen here many, many times.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.