Quote:Yeah your surrounding influence you but are you really that shaky on your philosophical position that it's so easily beaten?It is not that at all, they all know what i think, but they do not respect it particularly in regard of what i want or dont want them to say or do with my children.
Otherwise than that, we are a really close-knit familly and it pain me to understand that i will have to hurt them a bit if i am to obtain the respect my belief deserves.
Quote:I'm like you, I buck the trend; I reject conformity for the sake of it in favour of my own convictions.
And that in my opinion, deserves respect. Whatever what belief or opinion you may stand to.
Quote:It's ironic how considering how the bible tends to degrade women and make of them second class citizens in the scriptures that the women tend to be the most loyal in their religious beliefs and convictions than men.
And that is not only true of christianity, we have a debate ongoing here in Quebec about muslim woman wearing the Hidjab while working in public fonction. Those woman who do it are quite fanatic about that.
Quote:madscientist my advice to you is to take a stand on your non belief and make it known to your wife and anyone who is interested in knowing.when I first proclaimed myself an atheist I was "in the closet" for awhile but one day it dawned on me.
The point is that they all know, i never hided it at all. But now that i am a father, they do not seem to respect that i want to raise my children according to those beliefs.
But there is thing on my side i decided i could do to make it easier for them to understand. Cause now and then, when it is very important to someone i really love, like my sister wedding for exemple, i allow myself to be draged in church, altough most of the time a make my private show out of it, not loud enough to other people to understand, but always in the ear of my father (who share my non-belief, only not as fervently) who always get one or two laugh out if it...

For now on, i promise myself that this time is over, never again. I will tell them all in advance, before a situation make them want me to go, so they might not take it too personally when i refuse.
A first step determined, that is a good start along a long road.
Wizard's first rule
eople are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true.
