(April 3, 2018 at 12:31 pm)wallym Wrote:(April 3, 2018 at 12:12 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Even if you are correct about Trump's phrasing, the context completely destroys your argument. In the quote he clearly claims that the post office isn't making money from this deal. If they aren't making money, then they are either just breaking even, or are losing money. There's no other option. The next sentence, he says that "they lose a fortune". When the entire tweet is considered as a whole, the meaning is pretty clear. Trump is claiming that the post office isn't making any money from the deal with Amazon, but is instead actually losing money.
My point is, even if he is claiming that the post office would benefit from a better deal, he's also claiming that the current deal isn't making them any money, and they are losing money. That is just not true.
The post office is losing money overall. And an allegedly significant part of that is the shit deal with Amazon.
Again, going back to poker, if you're losing money overall. And you're barely over breaking even with AA and KK, I would say the money you're losing playing Aces and Kings poorly is why you are losing money. And someone who doesn't think that way would say "No, he's making money with Aces and Kings. You're wrong."
I'll concede this. I think Trump's characterization, while accurate to someone like me, is probably being wrongly interpreted by many of Trump's supporters, and Trump doesn't mind.
I also don't mind, because the substance is that the POA should be making more money off their deal with Amazon. And the rest is just political games.
(April 3, 2018 at 12:24 pm)Divinity Wrote: lol so says the guy who thinks whatever Trump tells him. Are your lips chapped from being stuck to his ass yet?
Trump cut taxes on all these wealthy corporations, and cut taxes for the rich. So don't pretend like he gives one FUCKING iota about how many taxes corporations pay. The ONLY thing he cares about is going after companies that oppose him. That's what we in the real world like to call CORRUPTION. He's only doing this because the Washington Post doesn't have their lips on his ass full time like you do. And you conservatives fall for his dribble every fucking time. Then you project onto the rest of us, and deflect whenever you can. Because it's all you've got.
I wasn't crazy about the way the tax deal went down. The top income brackets didn't need their rates lowered. I also liked Trumps hedgefund talk in the primaries. But that'd have needed help from the Democrats to make it into the legislation. And rather than do their jobs and try to get concessions on behalf of their constituents, they decided to not participate at all for political purposes. That gave all the political power to the far right, and we got a lot of stupid shit. Which doesn't bother the democrats in power, because they and all their donors are all rich, and will happily benefit from the stupid shit along with the republicans and their donors.
But in general on corporations. When you look at Tariffs and renegotiating trade deals. And even immigration. Trump is doing things that hurt corporations by removing sources of cheap labor. And at the same time, he lowers corporate tax rates in america and says "Hey, since slave labor in china isn't as profitable anymore, maybe come hire some Americans back home in our new friendlier tax environment."
Sorry not buying it.
If your solution is to continue to, or double down on GOP economic policy, you are an IDIOT.
REAGAN stared the age of deregulation, union busting and "don't tax the rich".
And what has resulted since? Bubble after bubble.
I vividly remember Bush Jr's tax rebate check for married couples. My X-wife and I got $300 bucks. Yes I did cash it, but I still knew it was a fucking con.
Let me tell you what WILL happen, even if we are lucky and 45 doesn't get an itchy trigger finger. EVEN IF, he doesn't blow up the world out of spite, the DEBT the rich create because of the lack of paying into taxes that WE have to make up for, builds up. The GOP supports bubble economics, not healthy economics.