(April 7, 2018 at 3:56 pm)Bahana Wrote: Do you think government workers cross the line when they promote AA for addicts? I've had some AA people try to tell me that a higher power could be gravity and does not have to be supernatural but I didn't buy it. They use the term god in their literature. I don't deny that some people are helped by AA but there are people within AA that truly believe you cannot recover from addiction without it. From what I've studied, addictive behavior comes from the lack of good relationships with people so just joining some kind of group could be of benefit.
The most recent useful dat released by the AA on their methods showed that not trying was a more effective way of kicking alcoholism than the twelve steps (it showed a c3% pa rate for twelve steps whereas unaided quitting is at around 5% pa). No wonder they haven't released useable data since the eighties.
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