Government workers that promote AA

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It is a program that works for some. If it saves a few lives, what harm can a recommendation do. Without revealing too much personal info, NA helped me immensely in the 90's. Helped me to save my own life. The god thing was downplayed. We used to call Christian 12 steppers "13 Steppers".  We discretely mocked those that converted "higher power" to "higher Jesus". We had Wiccans, atheists, and First Peoples that invited us to sweat lodges. It works if you work it! However, beware of 12 step programs in fundie churches. Go to the ones held in parks, rehab centers, coffee shops. Seek out like minded individuals.

When it's own data says it is objectively worse than doing nothing (which doesn't even come up to placebo itself), and as a result it refuses to publish the data for thirty years,  then I say; yeah AA needs to be fucked out on its ear.

It's like allowing homeopathy in hospitals because on rare occasions sufferers get better after being administered sterilised water.

I disagree. If somebody overcomes their addiction in a 12 Step program it is because of human connections(support)  and inner resolve, not because water has memory! Homeppathy and 12 Step  are false equivocations.