RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 9, 2018 at 1:24 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2018 at 1:51 pm by Transcended Dimensions.)
(April 9, 2018 at 1:06 pm)robvalue Wrote: Please stop saying shortcut.
No proper evidence presented = No belief
It's not a shortcut. It's a methodology. Without it, you believe any utter shit any random person comes up with. Even intelligent people get fooled and believe stuff without proper evidence, if it's one of their "pet woos". That's no reason for every other intelligent person to follow suit.
I certainly don't have time to chase people around demanding to see their evidence. They can present it, or not.
You are referring to the scientific method here. Skeptics would claim that the scientific method determines that there is no evidence for paranormal claims and that this is all that is needed. But perhaps there is something more that these skeptics do not realize. There are those objections these paranormal researchers address and I think it's best to keep an open mind to these things the researchers say given that they are intelligent people who have had a lot of education and training. Skeptics would tell me that I am just using special pleading here.
But to treat the paranormal research as though it is something to dismiss would be special pleading towards the skeptics. If we were to special plead towards neither the skeptics nor the paranormal researchers, then it would just be a matter of dismissing the skeptics and the paranormal research. Therefore, I think we should special plead towards both the skeptics and the paranormal researchers. In other words, we should do full research into both fields of study as I said many times before rather than favoring one particular field of study. But some people have claimed to have conducted this full research into both fields such as the member I quote below.
(April 9, 2018 at 1:14 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(April 9, 2018 at 11:43 am)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: I think I have addressed those quoted posts through what I said. I just personally think that human beings tend to limit themselves to only one particular view through shortcut methods rather than embarking on the full journey of knowledge and truth. Almost every religious believer, philosopher, paranormal believer, and skeptic use these shortcut methods. I think this was the wrong way of doing it and I explain new things in regards to why that is in that post.
I see you have come up with yet another objection/shortcut in that last paragraph of yours. So, what I would ask from there is, are you just being close minded here and drawing a hasty conclusion? Or are there objections to this as well out there that you are just not keeping an open mind to?
No. I have looked at the suggested evidence, I have looked into the attempts to prove a paranormal, I have studied the physics and the tests done to show it correct. None of the evidence for a paranormal is anywhere close to the strength needed to prove it, or even suggest it needs more study.
In which case, there is no way for me to decide since I have no interest in doing this research. That is just your conclusion you have drawn and I have no way of knowing if it is the right conclusion or not.