(April 13, 2018 at 1:00 pm)orthodox-man Wrote: Howdy all,
I recently found out that Sam Parnia (researcher of Near Death Experiences) was on the Dr. Oz show, as one of the other users on here started a thread on that. As some of you probably remember, Parnia is the doctor responsible for the AWARE studies, where he is trying to scientifically test Near Death Experiences.
For those who are unaware, the AWARE study has many tests put in place that attempt to study
a) what happens to the brain at "death"
b) attempts to test when experiences occur, (if NDEs are true, then they should occur when the brain is absolutely dormant)
c) sets up hidden images as targets in places in the hospital room above the patients bed to see whether or not a patient claiming to have hovered over their bodies during an operation can identify these targets. If they can actually identify these targets without prior knowledge of targets being there, this could be big.
I'm sure you are well aware of the first aware study done a few years ago which basically failed. Parnia did not prove anything big. However, now he is working on aware ii, which is supposed to be published in about 2020 or 2021. This time, he hoped to get more people, and put targets in more rooms to try to prove OBEs. While aware ii is still going on, Parnia has recently been coming on to tv and saying that he has scientific proof that a life after death exists. I wanted to ask you your opinion on:
1) Do you think this means that some patients he is using for aware ii have already seen hidden targets during their OBEs?
2) do you think that even though this study is supposed to be scientific that he may be biased and lie about NDEs being proof of a life after death?
I just don't know what to think of this.
https://www.doctoroz.com/episode/medical...6849591001
The only real study that can be had on this subject is the psychological reason gullible people buy BULLSHIT.
"Near" does not mean "after", that gives it away right there.
If surviving death were possible you could come back from decapitation.
If you come out of that window then you were NEVER DEAD. If you go beyond that window, YOU STAY DEAD.
It is possible for a doctor or nurse to not find vitals, but have a patient come out of that window. That does not mean the person was dead.