(April 13, 2018 at 3:18 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: I have no interest in near death experience, I want evidence of a post death experience
This bears repeating. I've decided to recuse myself from all further discussions concerning this subject because I've come to the conclusion that none of it is compelling evidence for any sort of afterlife. I gave it a fair shake. I've read several accounts and opened my mind to the possibility that these experiences could indicate a life after death. But no one--not one single person--has addressed Zebo's point here. Why should we count dream like experiences that happen at the moment of near death as evidence for an afterlife?
You could say "Well such and such was brain dead when the experience was said to happen." But NO! You can't say that. There is no way to verify if a dream-like experience happened at any specific time. If I had a dream last night that a bear chased me off a cliff, I can't tell you when during the night that I had the dream. In the same way there is no possible way to verify if anyone has an experience while brain dead. It could have been right before... it could have been right after. There's no way to tell.
And without this key piece of data--a verifiable post-death experience--there is no way to glean any information about life after death. NDE's are meaningless. The issue is dead on arrival (no pun intended).
