RE: Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions
April 21, 2018 at 9:40 am
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2018 at 9:46 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(April 21, 2018 at 8:20 am)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: It seems to me that I'm the opposite of Spok from Star Trek. Spok is intelligent, rational, coherent, not interested in hedonism, has control over emotions, mature, and lives by values founded upon intellect, character, and morality. But I am ignorant, irrational, incoherent, very hedonistic (so much so that it is a religion), wild and uncontrolled, very emotional, immature, and I live by values founded upon emotion. Is this really someone to be recruited on the enterprise? I don't think so!
Most accurate thing you've ever said!
Except you spelled "Spock" wrong
(April 21, 2018 at 8:29 am)Khemikal Wrote: What a useless dichotomy. My most meaningful emotional attachment and satisfaction is attended by a mound of rational observations and justifications. One without the other would be frantic, confused, self contradictory, and self destructively unhealthy.
Was she making a dichotomy though?
Seemed to me that she was saying she was the opposite of Spock. Most accurate thing she's ever said!
I have strong elements of both sides. I guess I'm like Spock if he wanted to act all emotional so he could get people on his side more easily. Spock if he was a manipulative as hell, lol.
Of course, it's all unitnentional manipulation. What most people would call "socialization". It's not like I'm actually manipulative. But the way I am on the outside and on the inside are completely different.
I'm a strong hedonist and consider emotions to be the most important things in the known or unknown, possible or actual universe, both in principle and in practice.
But I also don't think they're 'real' in some sense, although they are in another, and they do exist. In a way, conscious states are the most real thing of all.
That said, I arrive at all this from a position of logic. And I don't understand how people do the cognitive empathy thing. Seems to me that they're just making shit up
Although maybe part of my lack of cognitive empathy is my disbelief that anyone else has it either, they just think they do
