Oh no not another free will thread.

[henryp]

So the shortcoming of your non-science position, is that your 'intuition' is science.  It's shitty science, but science none the less.  

It's the observation of one's own mind.  And our minds are very solidly in our reality.  Your intuition and ideas have no ties to 'the objective world beyond the reality we experience.'  It's just your physical brain looking at your observed reality, and coming up with some guesses based on those things.

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Isn't that exactly what happens after a quantum event occurs?  We know the result with absolute certainty, without knowing why or how the result happened?

Isn't it known mathematically though? That works in the same way as logic.

As far as I'm concerned there is no "why"... only how. And the how is shown with the math.

I think the problem is that it seems acausal because the math appears to turn out differently each time, or something like that?

Then I go back to my point that ultimately in objective reality I think there are causes. They're just beyond our reach. The math is based on our experience. We're not testing reality we're testing our experience of reality. Our experience of reality is, of course, all we can ever experience, hehe.

Here is an example of using the 'objective reality' escape hatch.  You 'think' there are causes.  I made, I think, a really strong point about prior knowledge not making acausal events causal.  And then you went off all over the place with the philosophy nonsense (more followed this post) to get away from it.  

That's something you do.