Creationism and Ignorance

[FatAndFaithless]

Okay...so what definition would you use?  And as I've repeatedly said, that definition isn't supposed to be a detailed explanation of everything in the theory.  It's just a good starting point that isn't inaccurate or plagued by creationist/popular media bullshit.

But that's just it FAF the definition your working from is perfect for the creationist . That way they can play games and not have to accept the full implications of what evolution is . They can just cut it off at a point that's ideologically convenient ."oh i'll accept X can change but that does not mean humans are related to non humans etc etc "

Sure, but it doesn't mean they're right.  No matter how detailed an explanation or definition you create (hah), creationists will always just deny it.  That's not the fault of a concise definition that creationists will attack it. You could link to a 50 page article defining every facet of evolution and they'd still just say "nah!"