Civility subsection suggestion

[The Valkyrie]

No, it's perfectly reasonable.

These people all claim to know the "truth" but often can't agree on even the most basic tenets if their beliefs and are often willing to kill others, even those of their own religion, who disagree or believe differently.

Why should we accept these beliefs in those circumstances?

And, meanwhile, you have believers, priests included, who are faking "miracles" to try to convince people of the "truth" of their beliefs.

If you have to lie for your beliefs, your beliefs are a lie.

And, surely, the real truth should be apparent and speak for itself without the need for interpretation?

You shouldn't accept them or their beliefs, doesn't mean a holy book or it's complimentary guides can't be given attention.

The "why" would be best explained by the book and it's representatives, not by people making a mess out of it.

And because the proof provided is best provided by those who are in the essence the proof itself by which all proofs point to,  then you shouldn't not give them a chance, just because people took the religion as a pastime and game... and took manipulators and deceivers as leaders and equated their authority to God's authority vested in his names, images, and chosen words, the true Kings and guides.

But, once again, we fall into the traps of "the book" which, being an addition to the previous works that gave birth to Judaism and Christianity, is still contradictory if it falls back on the myths of the earlier works.

So the foundations upon which Islam is built are not the best from this perspective.

Then there's the trap of the "representatives" of the book. Even the most highly respected Islamic scholars can't agree on the tenets.

So I find none of this convincing.