RE: Civility subsection suggestion
May 4, 2018 at 3:09 pm
(This post was last modified: May 4, 2018 at 3:11 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(May 4, 2018 at 3:00 pm)Joods Wrote:(May 4, 2018 at 2:47 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Is it against the rules to tell someone "fuck off" or call them a cunt, etc?
I was under the impression that name calling and such was allowed, so long as it wasn't done a ton of times to the same person in the same discussion. But perhaps I misunderstood though.
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Also, name calling/cussing out are not the only things detrimental to a productive discussion. I brain stormed a short list of proposed rules some pages back.
You didn't answer my question.
What I'm understanding that you want is a change to the rules. A subforum isn't necessary for that. Plus - asking for a change in the rules may or may not be walking a fine line. It's subjective to what one finds offensive or not. There are plenty of threads going on right now that aren't involving the use of name calling or cussing someone out. If there's a specific pattern in the kinds of threads or topics that this is occurring in, then what you are essentially proposing is a subforum for specific topics to be discussed in. We already have those.
In addition - what one find detrimental to a productive discussion is, again, subjective. Those points have already been addressed by others.
My bottom line and my point remains: You want to either police what others can or cannot say or you want a special section for you and your theists to discuss subjects that would severely limit participation by others. There's a rule on that. So you're essentially asking to change that rule.
I dont want a rule change to the forum because I understand the value of free speech and such. It would just be reasonable and beneficial, imho, to add a single reserved section for those (atheists and theists both) who wanted honest discussion without the various types of detractions and such. Basically like a reverse rlyeh. And no, as I said, I would not want anyone excluded. This would be open to anyone who wanted to participate, and I would love to have discussions there with atheists. As i said That's kind of the whole reason I proposed the subforum, is to have productive discussions with those who have different opinions as myself.
Anyway, I doubt it's gonna happen so I wouldn't be too worried about it.
(May 4, 2018 at 3:03 pm)Shell B Wrote: I've found strawmen to be the biggest detriment to honest discussion here. I've wasted pages of posts on people who insisted on continuing to strawman the utter fuck out of everything I've said.
Trust me I know the feeling lol
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh