Civility subsection suggestion

[Edwardo Piet]

So having skimmed the last few pages, it seems like people would be happier if they were able to swear to emphasize a point, but not if it’s being used to attack / insult someone.

So essentially a forum where we have a stricter enforcement of flaming, would that suffice or are there other rules it would need?

For me, actually, I guess what I am saying is rudeness is subjective but swearing at someone isn't. I think the idea of the civility forum is saying "Your point is fucking stupid" and saying "you're fucking stupid" are equally bad if you're trying to be civil. So it's a little step further than no insults. I don't think "ignorant" is an insult. We're all ignorant of something. And calling someone dishonest isn't an insult if you think it's true. Sure, it's unhelpful, because you can't prove the other person is being dishonest anyway... but I don't think it's uncivil. Calling them a "retard" or saying "You're not a retard but your opinions are totally retarded" both seem equally uncivil, despite the former of course being worse.

I don't have a problem with saying in passing something like "I had a fucking amazing meal at a restaurant today. It tasted awesome." I don't think that's uncivil. I guess the idea is that if you're swearing at someone, whether it's them as a person or their position... that isn't helpful to discussion and also makes the overly hypersensitive people run away which makes it harder for them to discuss.

And sometimes it can make certain people take your point less seriously just because you swore at them.

I think it's a great idea and I will participate in there but I am very glad that AF as a whole doesn't require civility rules lol.