RE: Atheists:Can you disprove the resurrection or Jesus' existence?
September 7, 2011 at 2:53 pm
(September 7, 2011 at 3:02 am)coffeeveritas Wrote:(September 6, 2011 at 5:14 pm)ThomM Wrote: YES - easily
1)THE letter "j" did not exist in any language at the supposed time of the christ
No one named jesus - ever lived at that time
2) The claim of the christ is a genetic impossibility - a human male requires a human Y chromosome - the claimed combination does not have one
THe christ therefore could not be a human male
3) WHEN two different species attempt to procreate - they do not produce a being exactly like one of the species - but a MUTT - a being with characteristics of both - example - a MULE. THE claim that the christ was totally human could not be true
4) THe bible itself says that no man has seen god. IF the christ were are real person - then he would have been seen. ONLY a MYTH would not have been seen
Since the christ cannot have existed as claimed - things that cannot have existed to begin with cannot have ressurected.
1.) Haha! I guess you're technically right on that one. The letter "j" is actually how you transliterate an iota with a rough breathing, but there is no clear corresponding letter in Koine Greek.
2 - 3.) The complexities of the God-human hybrid, we're going to need to breed a geneticist with a priest. Hmm.... But how will we get him to break his vow?
4.) The Bible also says that no man can see God and live, so the question becomes, did Jesus melt peoples' faces like the ark from the India Jones movie?
- I believe the traditional defense of this supposition is that it's one of those God mysteries, like the three-in-one. God can be both God and man, because He's God, and He felt like it. It is fair to say that an infinite God would have properties that we just wouldn't understand, but it does end up sounding like a Christian "get out of jail free" card.
THe problem is that the claim of an infinite god - and that claim that we could not understand it is another ploy of theists - who fail to understand reality still has to apply.
In the real world - an infinite god simply cannot be true. IT still remains that suggestion creates the paradoxes that cannot be overcome. THE ability to do ONE thing often prevents the ability to do another thing - that is simply the way reality works - you cannot simultaneously be BOTH the smallest object in existence AND the largest one - by definition. So - for the bible to claim that Nothing is impossible with god (Luke) - that god cannot exist as defined because it cannot be true.
Among the things that is apparently impossible with gods is the complete inability to provide testable and verifiable proof of their existence - none have - but then things that do not exist really have no power at all anyway.
As far as the priest breaking his vow - you forget - his vow is not to marry - ie. - be celibate. Marriage is not a requirement for procreation - as we ALL know.