(May 17, 2018 at 11:43 pm)Godscreated Wrote:(May 17, 2018 at 9:34 am)Shell B Wrote: So you know enough about astrophysics to say they’re wrong?
As I said this comes from scientist making the statement. What's wrong with repeating them.
(May 17, 2018 at 11:43 pm)Godscreated Wrote:(May 17, 2018 at 2:21 am)Mathilda Wrote: I suspect that you didn't speak to a real professional scientist. Which field are you talking about for a start? Things can be very different for each field. See, if you had moaned about the pressure to publish or perish it would have given your post more credibility, but what you said is more akin to a popular misconception by non-scientists.
like I posted to ShellB, it was not my statement it came from another on a National Geographic show.
OK so now we're getting closer to the truth here. You didn't actually speak to a scientist in person, you saw something on a TV program which was edited according to what someone else, a non-scientist, deemed would make for interesting viewing about one particular field and you are applying that to all of science. Let me just remind you ...
(May 17, 2018 at 12:46 am)Godscreated Wrote: Many scientist today are writing things just to throw papers and information out there so they can claim they were the first to say this or that when and if those things are proven. This comes from scientist that are becoming disappointed by the way science is turning to guessing for the sake of fame.
Truth is that every scientific field has its challenges. Astrophysics is trying to figure out what it is measuring from incredibly vast distances with very little data. So of course there are going to be lots of hypotheses. It's part of the process. Give it slightly more data and the vast majority of those hypotheses will be discarded. Cellular biology has vast amounts of data to sift through so they have to mine for any pattern they can. A cynic being edited for ratings on a TV program would say they are just looking for patterns with no understanding. But that's how the understanding comes about in time. In Artificial Intelligence a cynic such as me could claim that people are writing smart programs and calling them intelligent when it really they are not, but it's still part of the process as you need to find out the scope of any technique so you can then understand why it is limited and why natural intelligence is the way it is.
But instead you saw a generic scientist on a TV program talk about the challenges specific to his own particular field and applied that to all of science because you need to convince yourself that your own non-scientific personal religious 'truth' is valid.