Creationism and Ignorance

[Pat Mustard]

I help care for a young lady who was born mentally challenged and then later developed schizophrenia and heard voices. This young lady has the mind of a four year old and wouldn't have had the knowledge that people even hear voices so she has no reason to lie, unlike you who has much knowledge and has to lie to make yourself look good. I've prayed for hear many times and it now has been a long time since she has heard voices. So you see she is not delusional, because we know she has heard voices and i'm not delusional because God has answered my prayer for her. You are the delusional one who has no concept of what goes on in the real world or the spiritual world. My young lady and I have seen God in action, you don't because you are spiritually blind.

OK, let's go through this bit by bit just to get my head round the twisted logic of what you saying

You care for someone who is schizophenic and hears voices. Fact that she is mentally challenged is irrelevant.

You prayed for her and now she no longer hears voices.

So your god can interfere with how people's minds work? I thought it was important for him that humans have free will?

And because you prayed for her and assumed that this was why she stopped hearing voices, you now think that she wasn't delusional about the voices and that they actually existed?

So are you now saying that she wasn't schizophrenic after all?

Of course this all forgets your confirmation bias you use to that to ignore the fact that the schizophrenia developed, and then went, and that she was probably also receiving treatment so you can claim that you prayers healed her instead. Like for example, how do you know it was your prayer that cured her? Not only is there no mechanism by which prayer could work, it doesn't even make sense within your own belief system regarding free will.

Again, you have gone for the convoluted explanation and missed the simplest. You're delusional and her schizophrenia was cured by other means.

See why the Christians wanted a place to have civil discussions, to keep idiots from derailing conversations with their thoughtless idiocy.

There are plenty of christian forums to go to if that's what you want. Do you visit someone else's house and tell them to shut up because you are having a conversation with your own family?

We're getting closer to the truth about why christians want a civil section. I haven't been uncivil at all. You just don't wish to be challenged. It's what many of us suspected all along.

The whole idea of free will is incompatible with christian ideas of god, yet it's still there bang in the middle of their theology.

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Hey, now, let's try to be nice to that child of a lesser god.

You're right. It must be like supporting the Brighton & Hove Albion football team.

Brighton arent that bad these days, good owner, strong community inovolvement, progressive manager, decent squad. It isn't the 90s any more.