RE: Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?
May 26, 2018 at 11:48 am
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2018 at 12:01 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(May 25, 2018 at 10:02 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: If god doesn't exist morality is still objective . And no most atheist don't believe it's subjective.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-48227.h...e+morality
(May 26, 2018 at 11:46 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:(May 26, 2018 at 11:36 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't know what you mean by "it's ok". Tragedies are always a horrible thing, and never ok things. I certainly don't think what happened to me was ok.
But we don't know what the long term consequences would be, both in this world and in the next, eternal one, if this world were one where God always stepped in to prevent anything and everything that would cause us suffering. I assume things would overall somehow not work out very well, otherwise He would do it.
3 million children die of hunger each year, you're telling me that this necessary for some greater good?
No, and that's what I just explained, dude.
The individual thing itself (ie starvation) does not serve a greater good.
God not divinely intervening every time anything bad would happen to any person, I assume, serves a greater good. Both in allowing humans to have free will and in allowing the natural processes of this natural world to run their course. I assume there is a valid reason why He allows for both of those things, even though they sometimes cause suffering.
Quote:Why can't God just eliminate suffering and death altogether, it seems to me that God if he is all powerful could reach maximum goodness without all of the death, pain, and suffering.
I assume this IS the maximum goodness, if all things are considered, which we can't consider since we haven't seen all of eternity.
(edited due to misreading the first time lol)
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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