(May 26, 2018 at 11:48 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(May 25, 2018 at 10:02 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: If god doesn't exist morality is still objective . And no most atheist don't believe it's subjective.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-48227.h...e+morality
(May 26, 2018 at 11:46 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: 3 million children die of hunger each year, you're telling me that this necessary for some greater good?
No, and that's what I just explained, dude.
The individual thing itself (ie starvation) does not serve a greater good.
God not divinely intervening every time anything bad would happen to any person, I assume, serves a greater good. Both in allowing humans to have free will and in allowing the natural processes of this natural world to run their course. I assume there is a valid reason why He allows for both of those things, even though they sometimes cause suffering.
Quote:Why can't God just eliminate suffering and death altogether, it seems to me that God if he is all powerful could reach maximum goodness without all of the death, pain, and suffering.
I assume this IS the maximum goodness, if all things are considered, which we can't consider since we haven't seen all of eternity.
(edited due to misreading the first time lol)
I'm sorry but your are saying that God allowing 3 million children per year to starve to death contributes to the greater good. Because if god stepped in a saved the children it would effect our greater good at some point in eternity. I am not implying that you personally think starving children is good thing, I'm trying to argue with your reasoning as to why an all powerful god would allow or would even have to allow this to take place.
