RE: Incredulous Logic
September 9, 2011 at 2:27 am
(This post was last modified: September 9, 2011 at 2:52 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 6, 2011 at 11:44 pm)Ryft Wrote: As for the "direct or implied promise of the mechanism" upon which we are assured the uniformity of nature, consider God's assurance to the people of Israel: "But I, the LORD, make the following promise: I have made a covenant governing the coming of day and night. I have established the fixed laws governing heaven and earth.
You offered the verse. The verse does refer to what they believed to be their covenant with god, stressing his ability to make such a covenant (and that he would keep it) by reference to material cosmology.
http://bible.cc/jeremiah/33-25.htm
Exegesis, lol. Ryft I try to avoid using the Bible as evidence for anything because it is unreliable. I'm a bit confused as to why you would even ask this, as you and I are both aware of where the Israelites got their cosmology. What other cosmology would they be referring to at this time? Are you suggesting that the writers in this case specifically were referring to a different cosmology? Do you have evidence of some other cosmology that was known to them and referenced here in this verse? I'm siding with the cosmology we know to have existed, which has been shown to have heavily influenced the OT, Babylonian cosmology (the reasons for which I feel are made abundantly clear in my last post).
Again, you offered the verse, the context of our discussion was a biblical justification for the concept of the fixed laws of material cosmology and the mechanisms thereof. I don't think it's a justification for such a thing, and apparently neither do you. Perhaps you shouldn't have offered it up as such.
I'm not interested in any exegesis over another. I'm honestly not. Until you can provide evidence that your god even exists whatever he's rumored to have said (and how we should translate it so it makes any sense whatsoever) is fairly meaningless to me unless it conflicts with reality and some believer jumps up to offer it as a sage wisdom. There are hundreds of these works (not counting each believers own personal views) and while they can't all be right, they can all be wrong. I don't think you're ignorant Ryft. Many things, but ignorant, no.
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