RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
May 29, 2018 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2018 at 1:56 pm by WinterHold.)
(May 27, 2018 at 11:32 pm)yragnitup Wrote:(May 27, 2018 at 9:26 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: You have two main sources that Muslims use to draw the religion:
1-The Quran
2- The Hadith books
The Quran is believed to be the word of God that was written when Prophet Mohammed was alive, while the Hadiths are written about 250 after the death of the prophet. They are documents of rumors about his era.
Sharia law is derived from the Hadith. Lots of negative laws exist only in the Hadith (like stoning and killing homosexuals).
Eliminate the Hadith; and the religion becomes very different from the negative picture sharia law presents.
You partially answered your own OP question. Why don't you go fix the >90% of 1.6 billion Muslims who accept & adhere to the hadiths. You can start with AL-Azhar and Medina University folks. In my place, if anyone publicly quote this or criticise the hadiths will be arrested on charges of blasphemy/sedition etc.
As for phobias you accused earlier, now lets look at your Al-Fatihah prayer which you & 1.6 billion Musllims utter 5 time a day during salat.
In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
All the praises and thanks be to Allah, the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists).
The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
The Only Owner (and the Only Ruling Judge) of the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)
You (Alone) we worship, and You (Alone) we ask for help (for each and everything).
Guide us to the Straight Way
The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (the Jews), nor of those who went astray (the Christians) (Quran 1:1-7)
Muslims can't even pray without dissing the infidel!!? and you talk about phobias?
And another beautiful verse;
Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures (Quran 98 6)
Now try swapping the words;
Indeed, they who disbelieved among the Muslims will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. They are the worst of creatures (Quran 98 6)
Sounds good to you?
No; I don't think so.
I didn't ask about a "certain sect". I asked about Islam as a whole. When I specify the sect; then your post is valid.
Otherwise; it's a very cheap attempt to begin arguing..
(May 28, 2018 at 1:18 am)robvalue Wrote: All religions are stupid and potentially harmful. Islam is a religion. It's a current one, with millions of children being indoctrinated into it. It promotes the Quran as "the word of God"; one of the vilest books ever written. This is always a dangerous idea, but the particular book here is especially bad.
Yes, other religions are awful too, especially the other two Abrahamic religions. It could just as easily have been them causing the problems in the East.
"The vilest book ever ?"
(May 28, 2018 at 4:41 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: My problems with Islam.
Are:
A: It purports to be truth while being rather silly and wrong.
B: Its oppressive nature.
C: Its misogynistic tendencies making women cover up and stay inside, not drive, etc etc.
D: Its draconian laws.
E: All the terrorism.
F: wherever it reigns there are oppressive regimes.
G: Kebabs
C and E sound more like The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and less like Islam.
The atomic bomb is a non-Muslim invention, is there a terrorism bigger than the extinction of all of humanity?
World War 1 and 2 are non-Muslim wars.
Kebab is not a Muslim invention. I realize that its main problem is the huge amounts of garlic + onions used in it; but the solution is to never eat it before you sleep, and to brush the hell out of your teeth.