RE: What is your problem with Atheism?
May 31, 2018 at 11:32 am
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2018 at 11:42 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 31, 2018 at 11:14 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (my numbers)People can justify just about anything they want to by reference to anything they want. It;s not as if magic book is short on reasons to slaughter this or that group.
1. Some secular humanists have indeed proposed various approaches to support their professed principles, such as utilitarianism, "veil of ignorance" etc. I have yet to find one that directly supports the professed principles in such a way that they cannot also justify fascist ideas like eugenics. So yes, I disagree which is why I am of the opinion that secular humanism is without warrant.
If you have a problem with eugenics..say you have a problem with eugenics. Theres no point in confusing eugenics or it;s problems (or the problems of the people who attempt top justify eugenics) with secular humanism.
Though, since you decided to bring it up...have you ever considered that you have more in common with them than I? After all..in your godless universe..what;s wrong with eugenics? Meanwhile, in my godless universe..and frankly, regardless of whether or not there is a god..it;s a hard no for any reason.
Quote:2. You apparently do not have a fair grasp of what I believe. Perhaps you should find someone who does embrace those ideas so you can argue with them instead.Or, and this would be entirely common, you lack the sort of self awareness that might lead you to realize that these beliefs of yours are not demands of theism or atheism, but demands that you place upon both?
Quote:3. If I agreed with Nietzsche that "God is Dead", which I did at one time, I would be a nihilist, which I accepted. I no longer agree with Nietzsche and am no longer a nihilist.You still agree with nietzche, you;re still a nihilist. God is cognitive fiat to escape your own profound discomfort with life - and blatantly so There;s no requirement in theism or atheism that life be meaningless "unless x". That;s all you. While you may not believe that god is dead, you posit that if god were dead..nietzsche would be right in every particular. You do this with regularity.
Know thyself. Your problems are not secular humanisms problems. Your problems are not atheisms problems. Your problems are not my problems.
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